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Five atheist miracles : Comments

By Don Batten, published 2/5/2016

Materialists have no sufficient explanation (cause) for the diversity of life. There is a mind-boggling plethora of miracles here, not just one. Every basic type of life form is a miracle.

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Oh, I almost forgot my favourite example, grateful.

Granted it was included in with the allegation of me supposedly storming off in a huff. Nevertheless, it was by far the most far-fetched example of a “fallacious interpretation, which you know is false” (as you would put it) and, therefore, deserves a special mention. I’m talking about your ‘sonnet’ question.

Your exact words were:

“We could add another one. We are speaking of life. What about intelligent life involving the creation of a single thought or perhaps a sonnet? Any videos dealing with question?” (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=18201#325150)

Pretty ambiguous stuff there. It bears little-to-no resemblance to the misguided claim that DNA forming by itself is about as likely as a chimp sitting at a typewriter and eventually producing Hamlet (or a Shakespearean sonnet, as you would put it) by bashing randomly at the keys.

So I ask for clarification of what it is that you’re talking about and you gleefully gloat that, after some seventy odd posts (and that’s just from you) getting you absolutely nowhere, you had somehow finally caught on to a winner with this ‘sonnet’ claim, and that, as a consequence, I had apparently fled like some fraud who had realised that “the game was up”.

Unbelievable.

Now THAT, my friend, is a “fallacious interpretation, which you know is false”. As I mentioned before, transference.
Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 5:47:00 PM
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Play your games with someone else AJ. I can't see you as anything other than fraud and slander
Posted by grateful, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 7:29:56 PM
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Grateful,

It is quite audacious of you to dig your heels in like that and continue down the same line of accusations that I have just finished demonstrating are not in any way true and reek of hypocrisy.

<<I can't see you as anything other than fraud and slander>>

A person cannot be a "slander" too, by the way.

You have not demonstrated a single instance of fraud on my behalf. Your accusation relies on claims that now lay in tatters spread across my last three posts.

I've been debating theists for over ten years now and in all my experience, there are only two ways in which the discussion ends: with the theist disappearing, or with the theist attempting to defame the atheist, almost as if to say, "Well, if I'm going down anyway, then you're coming with me."

It's disappointing.

Especially when you're speaking to someone who starts off so polite, and probably is ordinarily a polite person, only to know in advance that that may eventually change.

You believe that religion improves individuals. It is in part for the above mentioned reason why I think it can do the opposite too. Religion poisons people's minds and can make ordinarily nice people become vicious if that belief is threatened. Again, it's disappointing, but I continue to do what I do regardless because I believe that reason deserves defending.
Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 8:30:59 PM
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[5:19am, 30/06/2016] Sadaf Quran: &#128150; What is love &#128150; Love is when Bilal (Radhiallahu 'anhu) stopped giving the adhan after the death of the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam)

Love is Bilal leaving Madina after the Prophet’s (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) death because everything reminded him of his beloved

Love is Bilal seeing the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) in a dream telling him, "what is with this dryness/distance oh Bilal?" when a long time had elapsed since he visited the Prophet's (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) grave, prompting Bilal to head to Madinah upon waking

Love is Bilal arriving in Madinah in the middle of the night and Hasan and Hussain (Radhiallahu 'anhum) finding him at the maqam of the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) crying and Hasan and Hussain insisting that he give the adhan for Fajr. People came rushing to the masjid: weeping and anguished - reminded of their days with the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam)

Love is Bilal…when Umar ibn al Khattab (Radhiallahu 'anhu) asked him to give the adhan calling the army in Sham to prayer, and when he reached the part "Ashhadu anna Muhammadan Rasul Allah" began to weep uncontrollably, unable to finish the adhan, causing the entire army to weep with Umar (Radhiallahu 'anhu) being the most emotional of them all

Love is Bilal on his deathbed experiencing the pangs of death, with his family weeping for him, and Bilal (Radhiallahu 'anhu) saying, "Tomorrow I meet the beloveds: Muhamamad and his companions"
[6:13am, 30/06/2016] June Aziz Panjkov: SubhanAllah
Alhamdulillah
Laa IllahaillAllah

I heard about the story of Bilal love to Our beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW. Its so beautiful. &#128554;
May Allah give us His Mercy. Aamiin
Posted by grateful, Thursday, 30 June 2016 6:25:37 AM
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I just wanted to share. Apologies for not staying on topic.
Posted by grateful, Thursday, 30 June 2016 6:37:35 AM
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Interesting story. It shows me that Islamic People are "over emotional" when it comes to their Religion & that's why we have all the killing by Islamic People. They can't control themselves.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 30 June 2016 8:06:13 AM
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