Bazz.
It does matter.
How else will they get to increase electricity and living cost.

Dear Leo Lane,

You spectacularly failed to weasel out of this last time why on earth do you think this would be any different.

The Heartland Institute satys “Dr. Carter was a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist and environmental scientist with more than 30 years professional experience.”

Note they do not claim he was a climate scientist. The closest this scurrilous lot felt they could get away with was “was one of the world’s leading authorities on the science of climate change”.

John Cook from Skeptical Science isn't a climate scientist either but unlike your effort with Bob no one has claimed he was. He does however have a degree in science with a first class honours in physics which is vital in understanding climate dynamics and something poor Bob sorely lacked.

You were dishonest back then and to be repeating the claim is only adding to that dishonesty. You should quit now.

So, Reflux, no definition of a climate scientist, and you have no idea of what constitutes a climate scientist. Read about Robert Carter, and you will know what a climate scientist does, and your addled brain might attempt a definition.
When the fraud promoters, like yourself, had no science to counter Carter’s demonstration of the invalidity of their pseudo-scientific lies, they made up a name for him; “contrarian”. It means that he has shown what nonsense their so-called science is.
Where is the science to show any measurable human effect on climate, for which you have been continually asked.
Reflux can no more produce that, than he can produce a definition of a climate scientist, but he cannot stem his addle-brained output, to continue making a fool of himself. Where is your science, and where is your rational basis for your baseless assertion about Robert Carter? You do not have any justification for your addle-brained fraud backing.
Robert Carter was the author of more than 100 papers in refereed scientific journals. He contributed regular letters, opinion pieces and interviews to newspapers, national
magazines and other media, and regularly engaged in public speaking on matters
related to his research knowledge.

He had 35 years training and experience as a palaeontologist, stratigropher,
marine geologist and environmental scientist, and held degrees from the
University of Otago (New Zealand; BSc Hons) and the University of
Cambridge (England; PhD). He held tenured academic staff positions at the University of Otago (Dunedin) and James Cook University (Townsville), where he was Professor and Head of School of Earth Sciences between 1981 and 1999..

He gave evidence before a US Senate committee on global warming,
He continually researched amongst other things, climate change, and sea-levels change.
That was some of his work as a climate scientist, and Reflux boneheadedly asserts that he was not a climate scientist.Reflux, who obtains his climate science from a cartoonist, who Reflux says is not a climate scientist. Reflux does not explain how he comes to be running a site, purporting to supply climate science utilized by Reflux himself.

Dear Leo Lane,

Steady on the Ritalin there young fella.

No need to reguritate Bob's CV. We got it the first time.

Seems I will have to explain this to you again.

Look both archeologists and doctors study humans. However if you ill you don't go to the former to tell you what is wrong.

A proper climate scientist is like the doctor, they have an understanding of how the atmosphere behaves and how it responds to changing variables. A decent grounding in Physics, particularly atmospheric physics is a vital part of that understanding.
Bob's involvement with climate studies was looking at it from a palaeontologist viewpoint. He did not have the grouding to be regarded as a climate scientist just as an archeologist is not regarded as a medical doctor.

My definition of a climate scientist is one who is well trained in physics and modelling, has engaged in “the study of climate, scientifically defined as weather conditions averaged over a period of time”, and has published a paper or article in an authoratative climate journal.

That was not Bob Carter.

None of this;

“He had 35 years training and experience as a palaeontologist, stratigropher, marine geologist and environmental scientist, and held degrees from the University of Otago (New Zealand; BSc Hons) and the University of Cambridge (England; PhD). He held tenured academic staff positions at the University of Otago (Dunedin) and James Cook University (Townsville), where he was Professor and Head of School of Earth Sciences between 1981 and 1999.”

made him a climate scientist nor does an interest in climate change. That you refuse to accept it is a reflection of the affliction which continues to bedevil you, being blind to the facts when they are staring you in the face.

JF Aus, future electricity prices will have nothing to do with climate change.
Those prices will be set by the decline of the coal industry which is
already underway. Peabody Corp in the US and Australia is already
bankrupt. Many more coal companies will follow as the cost of coal
extraction keeps rising.
As more coal fired stations are closed with or without having an
alternative the price will really rise.
The greens have a policy of closing ALL the power stations in
the Yallorn Valley as well as those in the Hunter Valley.

However they intend to replace their output with solar & wind.
The catch 22 is that solar & wind cannot do the job.
To cater for say five overcast windless days you have to install
solar & wind systems six times the size needed for one day.
No one can afford that unless you have astronomical electricity prices.

Then what happens if there are six overcast windless days ?
Don't say it won't happen, I have counted five a number of times.

Bazz,

You say climate change has nothing to do with future electricity prices, best you check the ftoday's news, especially the last paragraphs here;
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/the-crippling-cost-of-a-carbon-tax/news-story/149fbc9ea8b5b869c24d916e567fadde

When there are cloudy windless days, just buy more batteries so you have bigger cost when they wear out in 4 or 5 years. LOL
Remember also about the toxic materials used in manufacturing batteries. LOL