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Pause in global temperatures ended but carbon dioxide not the cause : Comments
By Jennifer Marohasy, published 21/3/2016El Nino events are not caused by carbon dioxide. They are natural events which manifest as changes in ocean and atmospheric circulation patterns across the Pacific Ocean.
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Posted by ant, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 9:29:24 AM
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There is certainly a lot to see here. Scroll down.
See the NASA image dated Dec 11, 2015, and especially the first paragraph underneath. N.B. phytoplankton could influence clouds and climate. http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/phytoplankton-bloom-in-the-north-atlantic These NASA feature images and text were received by me today. This is evidence of new discovery involving phytoplankton/algae and clouds and climate. The new discovery aspect is why test book reference is not yet available. (N.B ant). Warmth in ocean algae plant matter and wind picking up ocean algae-linked surface warmth, melting even glaciers, will soon be realized in climate science. Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 9:40:31 AM
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JF Aus
"What do you think after looking back at my previous input on this thread?" There are two types of Planckton Zoo and Phyto. The specific type you mentioned "coccolithophore" is phyto and is Storing energy NOT PRODUCING HEAT. While the relationship between planckton and clouds may be new to you, I have been onto it for a very long time see here from 2011. http://joannenova.com.au/2011/09/is-another-big-la-nina-on-the-way/#comment-499955 The two most significant recent ocean fertilisation events would have been the two big Tsunamis from the Indonesian and Japanese Quakes. Did these cause blooms? If so they caused cooling! http://www.bio.miami.edu/dana/dox/photosynthesis.html The cooling does occur on the surface of the water. This helps to draw down CO2. The glucose and the CO2 from it enters the food chain and eventualy sinks to the then through the bottom to return as oil and gas (the perfect renewable energy). Posted by Siliggy, Friday, 8 April 2016 3:25:49 AM
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Siliggy,
I focus on phytoplankton, algae, not zooplankton. I speak from my point of view, not from the p.o.v of a science graduate. I have stated that algae in water produces warmth or heat, because algae is there. If algae was not present then solar heat absorbed by algae during photosynthesis would not be present and sea level for example would remain normal. Sea level is higher in the world’s biggest algae inundated dead zone, but sea level is not so high in adjacent water that can be seen to have less algae and no dead zone Yes I speak of coccolithaphore but it is common green algae almost everywhere that is of key interest to me, together with the total nutrient load from all sources. Common green algae would also exist where the coccolithaphore is, but just the latter is visible from satellite. There are apparently over 4,000 species of algae. Toxic algae is often reported by news media, I read or hear nothing about common green algae. A relationship between algae and cloud formation is not so new to me because it was warmth in algae that led me to find NASA images with evidence of clouds forming above algae. I think science should be well aware of the fact but there is evidence otherwise. The link I posted earlier on this thread is about the north Atlantic Phytoplankton Bloom is dated Dec. 11, 2015, with text Last Updated: March 22, 2016. That updated text states phytoplankton "could influence clouds and climate". Why does world science not yet know whether phytoplankton influences clouds and climate? In any case, why the need for complete scientific evidence of that fact, especially when science of AGW and emissions is not complete? Science does not have evidence of how gravity is formed yet gravity is fact. Science cannot form cloud and storms in a test tube, yet cloud and storms are fact. Numerous NASA images show pinpoints of cloud forming above algae. Continued………… Posted by JF Aus, Sunday, 10 April 2016 8:12:16 AM
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Cont’d………..
Why is science sometimes so fussy? El Nino is often referred to, without scientific evidence of what causes it. Why the fuss now about algae and cloud? Obviously, photosynthesis-linked warmth in ocean algae plant matter should have been be measured and assessed in AGW IPCC Kyoto associated science because ocean algae plant matter is linked to producing over 50 percent of world oxygen. Re significant ocean fertilization events. The oceans are over fertilized every day almost everywhere humans have settled on the water ecosystem of this planet. For the past 10 years I have been based just a few miles from the active undersea Kavachi Volcano. However the nutrient loading I focus on is coming seasonally from Asian waters in the northwest, down into the Coral Sea and Solomon Sea. I think the nutrient load that arrives is significant and is adding seasonally to local rainforest and sewage and land use nutrient in waters of Solomon Islands. During the NW wind season Kavachi is downstream from where I am based. But yes, nutrient from volcanic activity can form part of the total loading. Siliggy, I think you are on the right track, noted in your posts at the link you provided. For example it appears you think nutrient spikes are linked to build up of weather and change to climate followed by exhaustion of nutrient. I think the same, though I am very much aware of the mechanics of nutrient build up. You are aware of chemistry involved in formation of cloud, whereas I am not. I reiterate, my focus is on unprecedented unnatural nutrient proliferating historically unprecedented algae blooms and growth that is killing coral and seagrass nurseries that are supposed to supply ocean fish and animals and seafood dependent people with adequate essential protein food. My learning a little about algae linked to cloud and weather and climate has been somewhat accidental. Posted by JF Aus, Sunday, 10 April 2016 8:14:11 AM
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I add two related links. Lots of homework for anyone interested:
Phytoplankton Bloom in the North Atlantic Re: Updated Text of 22 March, 2016., "could influence clouds and climate". http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/phytoplankton-bloom-in-the-north-atlantic and Monday, 29 June 2009 8:55 PM Algae Killing and Heating Ocean http://www.solomontimes.com/letter/1969 Posted by JF Aus, Sunday, 10 April 2016 8:29:55 AM
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Many scientists have spent time working on the relationship between IR and CO2, go back to your quote from Judith Curry; and then, contemplate your comments about science.
You do not have many current skeptical science papers that have been peer reviewed that you can use to highlight your points; as a result you use abuse.
The ARM research definitively showed the relationship between IR and CO2.
I understand that having argued an opinion for many years that it is difficult to cope when current science is undermining your opinion, take satellite inferred temperature measure as an example.
Rising temperature has been an issue in the Arctic for a number of years, it poses difficulties for isolated communities.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/03/16/in-this-tiny-arctic-town-dramatic-warmth-threatens-everything/