Bring on the plebiscite! Better yet make "equality" an election issue and stop with all this patent nonsense. As for my assertion that people turn out as the creator made them rather than as some folk seem to alleged are groomed into becoming homosexual.

And given that is the moronic theme being pushed here, it needs to be responded to!

As for those who choose to believe otherwise, they possibly include closet gays determined to prove to be something other than who and what the creator made?

And indeed pious pedophiles hiding in plain sight? As shakespeare might have noted, methinks thou doth protest too much? Bring on the plebiscite, the sooner the better!
Rhrosty.

Hi Rhosty,

I'm still trying to get my head around this unbelievably idiotic thought bubble.

Perhaps you're right that some people are born homosexual. But perhaps also, many are made homosexual - and this dopey initiative will very likely swell the numbers of all manner of KLBGHTHIQ (including Hermaphrodite, Intersex and Queer people), and provide a wonderful environment for all manner of pedophiles to groom impressionable young people in a multitude of ways. Pedophile heaven.

Not to mention encouraging young people to tap into pornography on-line - which I thought, most likely incorrectly, that some parents and even TV stations were united against, when it came to children. But what would I know these days ?

Plebiscite over homosexual marriage ? Yeah, sure. As long as the tiny LBG etc. population keeps over-reaching, in its arrogance and total misunderstanding of the Australian population: keep demanding more and more, and the Australian population will come to understand that there will be no end to demands, once they vote for homosexual marriage. Go for it.

Rhosty, if your mob loses the plebiscite, can you promise never to raise these issues again ?

And in the unlikely event that your mob has a narrow win, will you guarantee that that will be the end of it ? No more absurd demands ?

By the way, I support the legalisation of homosexual acts, but I will never consider them 'normal'. And that's my right. IF that makes me a homophobe, then yes, yes, yes, I'm a homophobe. Suck it up and bugger off. Oops, 'bugger' may now be the property of the homosexual lobby, I might need written approval to use it. So sue me.

Joe

I think my concerns surrounding the safe schools program is not that it relates to LGBTI issues, but that programs like that focus or highlight minority issues.

I think, especially in the public school system the curriculum should be about the majority. I am NOT talking about white pride, that kind of preferencing but that every program in the school should seek to benefit the majority of people.

How much better would the school system be if every student was taught to love and respect ALL students. If every student was taught to care and support ALL humans. Because ultimately whether we label ourselves as white, gay, religious, left-wing, female whatever we are all humans first and foremost.

Why not fund a program that teaches us to treat ALL humans with love and respect. Teach that NO human wants to be bullied. That ALL humans want to feel peace and be successful?

When you focus on one minority group the question has to be asked, why not all minority groups? The AFL has indigenous round, but why not Christian round, or vodka lovers round?

This issue is overcome when the majority (being humans) is the focus, anything less is just marketing and money grabbing. (Like the AFL indigenous initiatives)

Prebs (today, 29 February, 12:55:48 PM) says

" the majority ... [should be] the focus" and

"the curriculum should be about the majority ... every program in the school should seek to benefit the majority of people."

That's simply a democratic fallacy; appeal to numbers.

Prebs gets a bit absurd - "When you focus on one minority group the question has to be asked, why not all minority groups? The AFL has indigenous round, but why not Christian round, or vodka lovers round?"

Well, Christians aren't a minority - not yet, anyway.

And vodka-lovers ?? That undermines your 'argument' quite a bit.

As for the "AFL indigenous round" Prebs resort to disparaging and a distinct LACK of respect when he deems it to be "just marketing and money grabbing."

What happened to Prebs call for "a program that teaches us to treat ALL humans with love and respect. Teach that NO human wants to be bullied. That ALL humans want to feel peace and be successful?"

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Lack of respect for whom? The AFL?

First: Last time I checked it wasn't a person to be offended.

Secondly: Motive. How exactly does a for-profit organisation justify spending money on services and the like in an area for which there isn't a business case of profit in the future?

All people should be treated with respect, and I have no issue with any organisation marketing towards whatever group it desires to influence. But back to my original point. In the case of the AFL there is an excellent business case for it's indigenous (a minority) focus. Excellent athletes, developing economy, etc. But if the AFL is only 'supporting' the Aboriginal people because they are a minority, why not others?

When a federal or state government commission a program that 'supports' a particular minority, other minorities are justified in asking "why not us?"

If the bullying of LGBTI is important to government, what about the bullying of the Mormons, what about the New Zealanders, or any other group?

When I was in school I (a white male) was abused and spat in the face by a Muslim immigrant girl. She got no punishment, the teacher didn't even talk to her. In talking about bullying, lets forget about WHY people are being bullied and focus on the fact that NO-ONE should be.

Again, if 100% of the students are human. The MOST INCLUSIVE anti-bullying school program that could be adopted is one which taught respect for all humans, not just about one minority.

Prebs replied - "Lack of respect for whom? The AFL?"

That is highly disingenuous as my reference to a "distinct lack of respect" was in a sentence in which I highlighted, with quotation marks, the "AFL indigenous round".

Again, Prebs disrespects the indigenous rounds and, from this exchange, I conclude Prebs disrespects Indigenous Peoples.

The rest of Prebs post is hand-waving.