The problem with this "Safe Schools" program is that it messes with the minds of the vast majority of healthy, normal heterosexual children to solve a presumed "problem" for a tiny percentage who are not.

In the case of the socialist left spivs in Victoria, they are going to bully everybody by making the brainwashing compulsory.

This is the worst example of social engineering I can recall.

Babette is correct, no amount of posturing is going to change the chromosomal facts. The rest is just left wing cant.

The pretence is "bullying". Yet the program ignores the real bullying of children who are physically small (bullies think they're an easy target), those with higher than average intelligence (just because they're smart and they make bullies, who are usually morons, feel inferior), and occasionally those who are "different" because they are the children of migrants, or simply have some other irrelevant difference, such as those with red hair.

And girls are not beyond bullying either. The nasty schoolgirls who bully other girls are a matter of public record, but that has nothing to do with the "Safe Schools" nonsense and will not be diminished by it.

By far the biggest group of bullied kids, in my experience as a school student, were those who were small or obviously intelligent.

How about a program for them?

As it is, we have an ideologically motivated minority view being imposed on everyone else - presumably as a dry run for the gay "marriage" campaign to come.

Yeah, this should do it: convince young kids with a not-fully-developed notion of reality, that they might lose their genitals, something that has never occurred to them (and to most of us, no matter how old we might be). Put the doubts in their minds in the name of encouraging 'scepticism' about gender roles. Groom them for any pedophile around who might want to 'enable' them to 'find their true orientation'. Brilliant.

Gramsci would be proud.

Joe

Unlike Susieonline I liked this article, sarcasm and all. Susie says "You know as well as I do that this program is designed to alert children to the scientifically proven reality that we do actually have homosexual and transgender people in our community, and that they are real people."
Do you really think there are children out there who are unaware of homosexuals or transgender people? If they have watched any kind of reality tv they would have been bombarded by these peoples sexual differences.
Like the author I have concerns about indoctrinating kids who are often at quite a confused period in their life. Informing them that "no-one can tell you if you are a boy or a girl" seems to be ignoring the basic facts of life and seems more likely to confuse and distress rather than combat any bullying. I recall being bullied at school due to having red hair and freckles. I also remember other kids for being bullied for being stupid or weak or fat or having acne. I never remember anyone being bullied for lacking genitals, being homosexual.
I think this program is ideologically based and should probably be scrapped.

Hi Rhys,

No relation of that wonderful archaeologist ? A truly lovely man. Vale.

What makes people think that homosexual kids, or kids who are already a bit uncertain about their whatever (they wouldn't have a name for it, for Christ's sake) can't be bullies ? My dim memories of primary school and early high school suggest that it was fairly ordinary for boys to have crushes on girls (I was deeply in love with five girls at once: Margaret, Judy, Dale, Jane, Lynette; I still think of Margaret .... if you're out there ....) but we were aware that some other boys didn't seem to have any attraction towards girls. And occasionally, to show they were real men, they tried to bully other kids. We just tolerated it, without knowing what it was all about.

My grandparents were nudists, they looked after us kids for a year or so, so on weekends we used to go off to the Royal National Park to mix with other nudists. A bit of a turn-off actually, although extremely educational - I can report, Suse, that everybody seemed to have the appropriate bits.

It might have retarded my interest in lady bits for a couple of years, but like other fifteen-year-olds, I became obsessed with the perfection of God's most wonderful creation, again and again. Once you've seen Gina Lollobrigida or Brigitte Bardot, how could anybody even want to be gay ?

And I've been happily heterosexual ever since. Every day. About every seventeen seconds. Girls, beware of dozy-looking old men on city park benches.

Joe

Loudmouth, I can't believe you are as ignorant as Runner in linking paedophilia and homosexuality? Gay men are no more likely than any other men to be paedophiles.
Look it up for yourself on reliable scientific, non- religious sites.

Where do you stand on the more than half of all paedophiles who prefer girls as prey?
Are they somehow not so bad?
These rock spiders seem to be conveniently forgotten in these disgusting debates on homosexuality.

Statistically, I would imagine some kids in every school since the beginning of time have turned out to be gay, without any help from 'education' such as this anti-bullying program, so I don't know how they managed to 'learn' this sexual orientation, do you?

Rhys-Jones, if, as you say, all the kids would already know about gay or transgender people, then where is the harm in bringing it up at school? They are trying to stop the bullying of kids at school who may be gay or transgender, and that can't be a bad thing surely?

Of course, some of these kids would have been indoctrinated at home by their homophobic parents who have no problems calling other gay adults all sorts of nasty names and bullying them at any opportunity, so trying to balance out that damage at schools can only be a good thing.

Just what, exactly, is everyone afraid of anyway?
If your kid is gay, he/she didn't 'learn' about it at school, they were born that way.

Talking about indoctrination and 'reality', I believe forcing kids to believe in and 'pray to' non-existent gods is not suitable for state schools (or any school for that matter) to do at all.

The Safe Schools Coalition is the best argument for home-schooling yet. I would hope that private schools will not allow this rubbish in. There seems to be nothing anyone can do about basic literacy and numeracy for our hapless children who have to find jobs in an adverse labour market.

If there is much more of this garbage democracy itself will be called into question.