Hi Toni,

Commiserations.

Anyway, you suggest that " ..... indoctrinating children with propaganda. Isn't that what the Muslims do?.... "

Isn't that the point ? That if you throw all sorts of doubts at kids about their sexuality, long before they need to consider it/them, isn't that precisely a form of indoctrination ? Why not leave it alone until the kids are fifteen or sixteen, when they might be more likely to have made up their minds ?

Ah, now I get it. Christ, I'm a slow learner.

And what makes you think that homosexuals can't be bullies ? In my experience, that has certainly happened.

Joe

Toni Lavis:

“What raises my ire is sad old tory pricks decreeing that kids shouldn't be educated about homosexuality because homosexuality offends them.”

What does it matter that they are sad or old or tory or pricks? That’s four prejudices in one sentence. Your bitterness is incredible for someone your age. This is about more than sexuality for you. You do the cause for homosexual education way more harm than good. They want to present their case as reasonable and logical but when you present it it just come across as someone with a bag full of deep resentments using their issue to attack all those he feels hard done by.

I think they would be extremely angry about you using their cause for your own personal agenda.

//That if you throw all sorts of doubts at kids about their sexuality, long before they need to consider it/them, isn't that precisely a form of indoctrination ?//

No.

Doubt and skepticism are the polar opposites of indoctrination, and should be taught to children from kindergarten up. The idea of education is to teach kids how to think, not what to think.

I should also point out that most of the focus on sex-ed under the NSW curriculum when I was in high school dealt with heterosexual and homosexual activities. Despite all this 'indoctrination', I am a failure as a heterosexual and an even bigger failure as a homosexual. And you can't blame the quality of the teachers, the quality of the course material, or the quality of the student: I did well in high school, including Health/PD/PE. I had great teachers (except in English).

I just think that no amount of education or indoctrination will sway a person from swinging the way they are naturally inclined to swing. If you have hard data - or even some anecdotes or hearsay to suggest otherwise - I'd love to see it. Hell, maybe I can go in for some conversion therapy to make myself more heterosexual. Seeing as the school-based indoctrination failed - or did it?

But I'm not sure I'd like it, because I think it would distract from more interesting things like science. And it might turn me into a d!ckhead like Aristocrat, only capable of comprehending the world through a sexual lens. There is so much more to life.

Mr role model Shorten having a go at Cory today was surely the biggest joke of the year. The left are both perverted and pathetic.

Toni,

So now we hear that, as part of this indoctrination program, children are ENCOURAGED to look up web-sites glorifying homosexual activity. Rotherham, here we come.

I'll repeat: 'What pedophile dreamt this up ?'

Joe

It's not easy drawing the line between fairness and deviancy. But there is a policy on "king-hits" : they call it the coward punch . The media does that. Maybe it got through to some bullies. So how's about it's extended to school bullies in general? They are not a bully (muscly , tough , cattle ) but a coward. Usually it's a bigger boy on smaller , fierce on passive or group on single victim. Coward is from :turning tail, (cauda) but also : cow-herd. It changes the style as cowboy shifts to cow-herd with suggestion of force against female gender in an un-macho weak image.