Suseonline:

“They were born that way, and it is only a matter of time before the gene is found and then all the homophobes can just shut up!”

Why does anyone want the homophobes to shut up? Why not simply ignore them. So long as they are not breaking the law then what harm is being done? Why don’t homosexual people just get on with their lives instead of being so utterly obsessed with what everyone thinks about them? All it does is show how incredibly insecure they are about their homosexuality. Why do they need to find a gene? How will the discovery of such a gene change anything? We are told that homophobic people have an irrational fear of homosexuals so will they automatically become rational just because a gene is discovered? You cannot change people who are not able to be reasonable.

Encouraging the search for the gene is an insult to homosexual people. You are suggesting that homosexual people are lesser human beings because their sexual behaviour, attractions and identity needs to have scientific backing in order to be valid and to be accepted by homophobic people. Non-homophobic people do not require proof nor do they really care. The only thing such a search does is to give credence to homophobia. What a waste of time and energy - just to try and silence homophobic people who will never change their views anyway.

People like you who encourage homosexuals to justify their sexuality in the face of irrational criticism are their worst enemies because you think that they should respond to empty words just to try and please others. Every time you stand up for them when they do not need to be stood up for you put another nail in their coffin because you are just re-enforcing their own insecurities. You might like to see yourself as their champion but you are in fact doing them way more harm than good.

Has anyone checked if Roz Ward is sane ?
However it seems from this article that she may be the reason that
the schools are teaching such rubbish.
It does raise a question in my mind, are we selecting primary school
teachers that are so pliable that they will go along with this rubbish.
If a political line is being pushed at our children why do the schools allow it ?

Are there no teachers who will stand up and say I refuse to teach this !

Suse, from my understanding sexual orientation is not down to any gene? but rather two of four sex centres.

Two for blokes and the other two for ladies.

They are located in the primitive brain sometimes referred to a the basal ganglia, or when I studied medicine, the ganglia obligata.

I've read of scottish experimentation, that according to reports successfully altered the sexual orientation of a pedophile, who was according to an article appearing in a seventies science fact article, given just two choices by the presiding judge; when appearing before him on the third occasion for buggering boys.

Allow himself to be experimented on in a local science institute or be incarcerated for the term of his natural life, with no chance of parole ever?

To cut a long story short he found himself on a table with all sorts of instruments humming or flashing around him.

The results of the test revealed all four of his sexual response centres were firing, hence the attraction to boys, who are the only group able to represent both male and female characteristics simultaneously?

According to the article, two tiny electrodes were inserted into the Ganglia and the inappropriately firing female sex centres burnt out with a tiny electrical current. And allowed to leave always providing he was monitored?

within twelve month he had met and married a woman, and went on to have a couple of kids.

At last report, had never been happier or more content with his lot?

Now I'm not saying this is for everyone, but possibly far less traumatic than radical major surgery,plus hormone therapy, that tries to remake the genitalia to fit the transgender personality.

In other words remake the orientation to fit the image, rather than something far more radical.

From what I know of gay people, nobody in their right mind would chose to be gay, but are born that way, and then have to live in a hostile world where something like simple human comfort and children are forever denied.
Rhrosty.

Rhrosty:

“From what I know of gay people, nobody in their right mind would chose to be gay, but are born that way, and then have to live in a hostile world where something like simple human comfort and children are forever denied.”

Would they choose to be gay if the world wasn’t hostile and they could have simple human comfort and children? Perhaps the real problem is not their sexual attraction but their attraction to being a victim.

Many people find the world hostile to them but they do not let it affect their own happiness. The world’s hostility is the world’s problem. Simple human comfort is not necessary for a full and rich life – millions live quite contented without it. If your happiness is dependent on the comfort of others then you will always sell yourself short and you cannot be happy doing that. Why do you need children to be happy? There are lots of miserable parents and lots of very happy people who have no kids.

Homosexual people who spend so much time yearning for things to be the way they would like them to be are not really living – just yearning

Hi Rhrosty, from all my reading, it seems scientists are closer to finding out why men are gay, especially from the study of identical twin males where one is gay and the other not. They think there may be some other marker that leads to someone becoming gay.

“For men, new research suggests that clues to sexual orientation may lie not just in the genes, but in the spaces between the DNA, where molecular marks instruct genes when to turn on and off and how strongly to express themselves.”

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-genetic-homosexuality-nature-nurture-20151007-story.html

The reason I am so sure that people are born gay, is because my best friend’s son was born into a very anti-gay, churchgoing family who had never even met a gay person as far as they knew. This boy preferred his sister’s toys and mother’s clothes and makeup from an early age, much to his father’s disgust.

He was very expressive and theatrical in nature and loved dancing, including ballet and tap dancing. His father and he didn’t get on at all, and he only had female friends all during his school years. The boys at his schools bullied him and called him gay names.
I have to say, I knew he would be gay from about the age of 3 years.

He tried so hard not to be gay and even had a girlfriend for a year. He broke her heart when he finally ‘came out’ as gay at the age of 19 years. His family was so shocked and distressed, but it was no surprise to many others.
He is happy now, living life as he was meant to.

//The problem with 'commies' as you irrelevantly put it//

If commies are so 'irrelevant' as you put it, why do you keep trying to disinter the long dead corpse of the Cold War from its peaceful repose? Good gods, man, it's been thirty years since the Cold War ended. Maybe it's time you found a new hobby.

That is not dead which can eternal lie;
And with strange aeons even death may die.

But there will always be some mad old bugger banging on about communism. When we might hope for its death?

Because it's about time it did, and it's certainly time that tired old Cthulhu cultists renounced the Old Gods and joined the modern world. Yeah, I know it's scary and full of the dreaded young people - get over it, pussies.