Oh Pat you should be doing a show at the Adelaide fringe.

Must have been a hard knock when your Tony got dumped?

this program is about as much about bullying as Tony Abbott believed in man made gw. It is a program set up by deviants, condoned by deviants and ignored by totally gutless politicians. Private schools will be the winners as parents with any concerns about morals will not allow the sickos to brainwash their kids.

It says a lot to me that the National Civic Council has existed for more than 60 years and I've never heard of it.

Oh, how fringe daaaarling.

Crackpots speak to crackpots and worry about how other crackpots are leading our youth astray.

Somehow I think we'll survive.

//Putting the doubts about one's sexuality into the heads of very young children, when they hardly know the difference, and are utterly unable to demonstrate one way or the other whether they are male or female (or LBGTHKYSGHJYRJYLUIY) - yeah, that should do it. Yeah, let's totally fmqk up society, hee hee !//

Yep, gays are all closet commies.

Fun Fact: AIDS was invented by the CIA to kill junkies; the gay men were just collateral damage.

The American government faked the 9/11 attacks so they could attack Iraq.

They also faked the moon landings to win the space race.

The CIA can control the weather.

And your thoughts, unless you wear one of my patented thought-protection helmets (TM).

Available now at all good stores who sell to paranoid weirdos.

Hi Toni,

No, not all ratbags are commies: but in relation to Gramsci, check out Chris Uhrlmann's article in today's Australian, Inquirer section, p. 26.

The problem with 'commies' as you irrelevantly put it, is that what they/we believed didn't come to pass. None of the fundamental assumptions were valid. So-called socialist societies rapidly became - de facto, of course - fascist, in every case. Every vase. So if anything, communism moved Right, and took many of its adherents with them. There's nothing 'Left' about gulags. It's just that, again and again, communism moved Right and betrayed itself and its followers. We've had a combined three hundred years or so of experience of that now, across the world, Russia, China, Ethiopia, Vietnam, eastern Europe, Cuba - all gone bad.

And as Uhrlmann points out, the working class immediately after the failure and/or distortion of the socialist revolutions around 1917-1920, had more sense than to follow Gramsci's wishes, so he had to rely on the other disaffected class, the intellectuals, another class with - from its own point of view - so much to offer but powerless, ignored, spurned by an uncaring world. So how to bring that uncaring, hedonistic, unprincipled world down ?

If you look at some of the 'progressive' issues of today, and ask yourself what would Marx and Engels have thought, it seems to me - as perhaps an unreconstructed Marxist ex-Marxist - that they would be appalled. 'What, a bunch of perverts are now supposed to be leaders of the Revolution ?!' Surely, they would have assumed, there are far more crucial issues than bloody sexuality ? No ? What about defending human rights against patriarchal Islam ? Worker' rights around the world ? No ? I think they would have despaired and retired to Manchester and their cigars and claret.

Go for it.

Joe

Interesting to note the usual "useful idiots" dived on this article, and despite the author of the program, Roz Ward, outing it as having a political agenda, deny this to be the case. She must have been suffering a bout of false consciousness when she addressed the Marxist conference!

But while supporting the right of Marxists to put this sort of twaddle into school curriculums they would doubtless dispute the right of, for example, Christians, to do the same thing. The secular state only works in one direction it would appear.

And yes, Chris Uhlmann's article is well worth a read. You guys are just lucky I'm in the Uhlmann camp and am prepared to provide an open space where ideas can be debated without fear or favour. You've got somewhere you can practice your indoctrination and where the rest of us can observe how absurd it is.