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Australia's day for secrets, flags and cowards : Comments
By John Pilger, published 25/1/2016Among settler nations with indigenous populations, apart from a facile 'apology' in 2008, only Australia has refused to come to terms with the shame of its colonial past.
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Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 5:46:07 PM
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The aboriginals were extremely LUCKY that the British decided to colonise Australia. Not only should they be celebrating Oz Day but they should give thanks to whichever deity their tribe worships.
In the late 18th century. Australia was going to be colonised. It wasn't a question of if, only a question of when and who. The aboriginals were fortunate that it was Britain that did it. It could have been the Spanish. Whatever happened to the Incas and the Aztecs? That would've been the aboriginal's fate as well. It could have been the Belgians. Have you heard of the Congo? Portuguese in Lanka? Germans in Africa? It probably wouldn't have been the Chinese since they were too weak by then and besides their only interest in Australia for the previous few centuries was buying aboriginal women to become concubines back in Peking. (yes despite the fairytales that aboriginal women had equal rights with men they were in fact chattels that were sold to traders for centuries and later to sealers in Tasmania). The British arrived with intructions to respect as much as possible the local peoples and their customs. It didn't go perfectly (what does?) but the aboriginals were far better treated than had any other colonisers arrived. Indeed, we only have an aboriginal problem/issue because the British came. Anyone else and the natives, so backward as compared to their occupiers would have suffered the fate of the Incas or the Haitians and ceased to exist. So they should be celebrating Philip's arrival....but I won't be holding my breathe. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 1:00:31 PM
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Hi mhaze
Tut, tut! So politicly incorrect but so accurate. That the Aborigines did not experience Catholism by the Sword (like the Philippines and East Timor) means that there are many Aborigines to complain today. To any observer who was unaware that January 26 used to be Australia Day for all Australians the Day it is now "Aboriginal Day" an empty political gesture to make Lefties happy. Regards Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 2:56:03 PM
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Hi Joe, Suse and Arjay
I can't claim the badge of convict ancestors transported. Just a Scottish ship's captain and an Irish girl meeting and marrying in Adelaide in the 1870s. See CAPTAIN WILLIAM BEGG. "Captain Begg was awarded a silver medal by the Italian Government for rescuing the crew of an Italian sailing ship on fire in mid-ocean. On one occasion, during a storm, he had his legs and ribs broken and two steersmen were washed overboard. He later owned steam launches and started the S.A. Tug Company. With Captain Legoe he also started the S.A. Stevedoring Coy., which is still operating in Port Adelaide. He had a large family." http://users.olis.net.au/penta/pages.htm He and she rapidly became pillars of the Protestant (Anglo-Irish) Establishment of that fair city. A Jewish great-grandmother later added ideas and a less staid family culture. Cheers Pete Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 3:13:13 PM
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Good onya, Pete :)
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 4:25:45 PM
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Lying is the sine qua non of Pilger’s work, but he particularly likes lying about aborigines.
He avoids historical truth, and treats works of fiction as reference books. The aboriginal culture is a stone age culture, and it had no social structure which could not recognise, much less organise their community against an outside threat, such as the settlement of part of the country that they inhabited, or to even assert ownership over it. They had no concept of nation, or of any community past a tribe. They were not a civilised people, but existed as tribal, nomadic hunter gatherers. Pilger says:” , mass murder was ordained. In 1838, theSydney Monitor reported: "It was resolved to exterminate the whole race of blacks in that quarter.". No doubt the “Sydney Monitor” exists only in the turgid imagination of Pilger, and the” report” is a lie from the same disreputable source. A shameful article, for which he should receive universal condemnation Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 29 January 2016 9:06:23 PM
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Perhaps you're right, we're soooooo powerful, but sooooooo bad, we can push people around at will, and there's nothing too evil for us. I suppose one could call your approach 'triumphalist negativism', or 'negative triumphalism', the gist of which is that our innocent victims are utterly powerless like sheep, and we are utterly all-powerful. A bit like Voldemort, an entire race of Voldemorts. God, we're such bastards. And Aboriginal people were such puppets. We were, and are, so superior in every way; they were and are, so inferior. Charming people, lovely culture, but a bit thick, between you and me.
On the other hand .....
You suggest, " .... We have murdered most of the Aborigines in the past .... ". Prove it. Find evidence. It's so easy to flap one's lips so airily. Get some back-up. He who asserts must prove, demonstrate. Otherwise it's all just air out of your backside, Arjay.
Burble is so easy, isn't it ?
Joe