Plantagenet you owe David Morrison a big apology. He has pledged to carry on the good work started by Rosie Baty, so check your facts chum.

Runner, I don't always agree with you but your several posts on this are right on the money.

Pilger as usual is out of his tree. Most of his facts are wrong. Loudmouth is the expert on the subject. Take notice of what this man writes.

David

Here's another example of Pilger's selective use of words,

"With remarkable ingenuity and without guns, they fought an epic resistance that remains almost a national secret."

As soon as they got their hands on guns they used them and with remarkable ingenuity adapted pistol cartridges to fire in rifles that were not chambered for them.
There is no secret about this at all.

"This truth has no place in the (Pilger) consciousness.,,,"

Hi Is Mise,

Down here in SA, there seemed to be a common pattern:

* groups would come down out of their country and raid sheep and cattle, occasionally killing shepherds, hut-keepers and squatters and their families;

* the Protector would set up a ration station near or in their country;

* end of raids.

The men from Lake Hope, east of Lake Eyre, used to come down to the Flinders for ochre, raiding huts and pinching or maiming sheep on the way to and fro. The Protector ordered a couple of tons of ochre to be sent up there each year. End of.

Rifles: well into the 1840s, they were muzzle-loaders, which took a minute or so to re-load. Single-shot of course. How many spears can a bloke throw in a minute ? The new breech-loaded rifles were also single-shot: repeater rifles were not invented until the 1870s in the US.

But why spoil a good story ? I read of an Aboriginal bloke this year or last year, talking about a battle south of Perth in 1829 or 1830, where soldiers used repeating rifles. Make it up as you go.

And of course, by order of the Colonial Government in London, all pastoral leases after 1851 - before then the right had been implied in King George's 1837 Letters Patent - had to have a clause inserted recognising Aboriginal rights to use the land as they always had done. Still the law. And yes, that clause was observed.

Joe

Hi Arjay

"Slave labor" was only relevant up to a point. Most convicts were freed a few years (on average) after transportation to Australia. Those freed (ticket of leave then pardoned) frequently become wealthier, higher standard of living, than many smallholders and most farm labourers back in Britain

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I regret to inform you that David Morrison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Morrison is a veritable industry Man For All Causes under the grab bag term "Diversity (D) Man".

LGBT, women generally, woman in the military, bastardisation in the military, domestic violence, Aborigines, The Republic, and any other cause that springs to Turnbull's mind, are all represented by "D Man".

My Irish ancestor was sent out to Western Australia as a convict after he was convicted of burning down the haystack of a Protestant English landowner in Southern Ireland.

He worked on farms as a laborer for his full seven year term, then had his family emigrate to Bunbury from Ireland to join him. Later, someone else apparently owned up to the arson crimes and my ancestor was pardoned and given a parcel of land to farm on. He did very well then.

I have old letters from some of his descendants which talk about their interactions with the 'local natives'. It certainly seemed more acrimonious than friendly, with the husband of one ancestor being speared to death on his farm.
If you have old letters from back in those days, as there are in the Batty Library in Perth, WA, you can read first hand what happened in those early days of the colonies.

John Pilger is not out of tree in most cases. He he spot on in what's happening in the Middle East.

We have murdered most of the Aborigines in the past and now kill off what remains with social security benefits and a plethora of deceptions that gives them victim status to do nothing. They call it "sit down money." They are now represented % wise in our jails higher than another race because of these do good policies.

Make people responsible for their actions and this includes our criminal pollies and our criminal central bankers.