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Christopher Pyne, Bronwyn Bishop and Tim Wilson: have they no shame ? : Comments

By Stuart Rees, published 29/12/2015

And how do we comprehend the hypocrisy of a Human Rights Commissioner - Wilson - who appears to have been 100% reliant on the word of one side?

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This is just a drawn out rant and excuse to express hatred of Israel. Pyne, Bishop and Wilson are just props for another boring anti-Semitic rage.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 10:12:20 AM
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I simply cannot see any justification of the dispossession of the palestinians, any more than I can see the same when Hitler and his minions did likewise to the jewish counterpart!

Like it or not the Jews under Netanyahu are becoming as bad as the reviled nazi butchers and SS storm troopers.

And one supposes, those few Jews who took up arms to resist the nazi war machine, would have been similarly labeled terrorists?

Not that I condone the palestinian approach given it is just as mindless as those who dispossess them of their land and human rights; but would prefer the Gandhi approach of peaceful resistance while the whole world watches; along with a continued commercial boycott, the only thing which seems to be affecting those entirely bereft of a conscience.

The only approach which may stop the bloodletting, and the shameful mealy mouthed excuses for the over the top excesses!

Women and children are hardly seasoned resistance fighters!

Which apparently has to include the aforementioned mealy mouthed conservatives toeing some official party line?

And just what you'd expect from conservatives,with Sergeant schulz's syndrome, who arguably put the dollar and its acquisition ("trade deal") ahead of almost any other consideration?

Time for a rethink, and calling to account, those who think there is any justification in dispossessing a whole race for the sins of a pitiful few!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 10:52:29 AM
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Rhosty,

That's pure racist bigotry on your part. The moment you start using comparisons to Nazis your argument is logically and morally bankrupt, especially when the behaviour of Hamas in Gaza is far more vicious, racist and tyrannical than anything the Israelis have ever done.

Rather the "race" of Arabs including Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians etc attacked Israel 3 times with the express purpose of committing Genocide on the Jews, which is precisely how they came to lose the land.

Israel has always had the policy of trading land for peace, such as the return of the Sinai to Egypt in return for recognition and a peace treaty. However, even after Israel withdrew from Gaza as a gesture of goodwill and enabled Palestinian self government, neither PLO nor Hamas has recognised the right of Israel to exist and still have the destruction of Israel in their charters, the chance of genuine negotiation on their part is negligible.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 11:38:46 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

I thought your earlier post was just partisan politics, protecting your poster children – those conservative Liberals like the disgraced Bishop along with Pyne and Wilson, but this latest offering shows just how little you are able to think for yourself.

Rhosty is perfectly entitled to compare the actions of successive Israeli governments as acting like SS Stormtroopers. Many prominent Jews, even Israeli Jews, have done just that with strong justification. It is not a comparison I am comfortable deploying myself but the shoe does fit.

It is not in any way “pure racist bigotry” and I'm sick and tired of those like you who claim it is.

Further more Israel does not trade land for peace. This is an outright lie. Name for me one acre piece of land that Israel rightfully owned that it has freely given away? There is none.

The PLO or Fatah has already recognised Israel's right to exist even under Arafat. Israel's reply? To yet again shift the goal posts and demand the be recognised by the PLO as a “Jewish” state.

Lastly you claimed “when the behaviour of Hamas in Gaza is far more vicious, racist and tyrannical than anything the Israelis have ever done”. Do you ever think about these things when you write them? By what measure can you claim this? Lives lost? The number of children killed and maimed? Please tell me.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 12:42:51 PM
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SR,

Rhosty, you or anyone else is entitled to racism and bigotry, just as I am entitled to call it out. There is a strong streak of anti-semitism amongst the left whingers that they desperately try and disguise.

Every Arab nation is far closer to the Nazis than Israel, and if the Democratic nation of Israel did mimic the SS storm troopers as Sadam, Assad, The Saudi govt, and Gaddafi did there would be no Palestinian issue and few Palestinians.

A suitable test is whether one particular race or group is being held to standards that are not applied others and are being punished for it. The simple fact that the horrors and human rights abuses inflicted on the people of Gaza by Hamas outstrips anything meted out by Israel in self defense is blithely ignored by these pompous bigots.

When these selective finger waggers open both eyes and begin to demand the boycott of Hamas and the PLO until such time as they call elections, stop the arbitrary executions of gays, women and opposition members, recognise the right of Israel to exist, and agree to talks without ridiculous pre conditions, then maybe there will be a path to peace.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 3:21:46 PM
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Dear ShadowMinister,

Put the songbook down mate.

Israel is illegally occupying the land of another people and continues its forced displacement, torture, arbitary imprisonment, and extra-judicial killings.

The last war in Gaza took over 2,200 Palestinian deaths (70% civilians) and 10,000 wounded compared to 73 on the Israeli side of which 7 were civilians.

The blockade preceding it and continuing to this day is brutal, against the Geneva Convention, and a human rights violation of the first order.

You call anyone criticising Israel's actions a racist and a bigot.

Here is what I don't get, why do you do it? I assume you are not Jewish something that would have given you some small justification, so what is your reasoning. I mean normal person looking at the misery, indignity and death inflicted by Israel on the Palestinians would see it as the crime it is, but not you.

You deem a simple precondition of the cessation of continued settlement building on occupied Palestinian territory as an unreasonable.

I am reading a book by Donald Neff on the Suez crisis titled Warriors at Suez. It is quite eye-opening revealing how little trust Eisenhower and his administration had toward the murderous thugs who have held the leadership of Israel. The Israel lobby has certainly been very effective in shifting perceptions but why have you, an Australian half a world away, maintained such a jaundiced position on this issue?

I'm guessing it is your hatred of 'the Arab' that is partly to blame, it doesn't answer the whole question, but your racism and bigotry is very much on display.

You sir are a sheep.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 31 December 2015 12:43:17 AM
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