Yeah Toni and you show what a grateful creature you are despite the free gift of life you have been given.

What I quoted regarding wife-beating I
obtained from the web and I did cite
an appropriate link, one of many that
anyone can Google for themselves. There
are many more given examples that can also
be looked up - regarding this subject.
It is not "my narrative." Do your own
research before finger-pointing and blaming
either myself or only one religious group.

I would also like to respond to an earlier post
blaming the Labor government and Progressives,
Fabians, Socialists, et cetera, We all are aware
that Australia today is a vastly different place from
the British Isles in which our institutions
originated. Just as Britain is having to adapt
to its changing population, so our institutions
are now required to respond to the needs of a
culturally and linguistically diverse society.

The Department of Social Services makes it quite
clear that this doesn't mean we should dismantle
or repudiate our institutions in order to start
afresh. It tells us that we should make our
institutional heritage work better for us by
enhancing its capacity to respond flexibly to the
needs of an ethically mixed population.

The Department confirms that we need a positive policy
response. Inaction can only exacerbate the problem.
We currently have a positive policy approach. The government
is doing a good job.

It knows from experience that it should seek social cohesion.

See you all on another discussion.
I have nothing further to add on this subject and I don't
see the point of harping on about the same thing or
harking back to previous arguments. It is rarely
productive and you always end up going around in circles.

To get back to topic, I would suggest that, like adherents to other religions, the great majority of Muslims are comfortably casual about their beliefs, that like adherents to other religions, a minority of believers are very devout, studying the Koran and strictly observing all of the necessary requirements every day.

I'm confident that the great majority of Muslims in Australia are as appalled by the brutalities carried out in their name, as other Australians.

And I'm sure that most of us on OLO wish them well in their difficult struggle to distance themselves from those who claim to be acting according to such hateful interpretations of the strictures of Islam.

Joe

All of which, Foxy, is immaterial; what is material is that we have within our society a religio/political system which believes and preaches that it is a duty to chastise wives if it is considered necessary by the husband (the plural 'wives' is intentional).
Such action is against Australian law; this is in the here and now, one only has to look at the status of women in Israel to see how far the modern Jews have moved from the teachings of the Old Testament on this.

Dear Is Mise,

You were the one who brought up the topic and made
the statement about Muslims. I merely responded
to your claim. As for who practices what today?
Do your research. I've done mine.

//And I'm sure that most of us on OLO wish them well in their difficult struggle to distance themselves from those who claim to be acting according to such hateful interpretations of the strictures of Islam.//

I wish I could be as confident as you about that, Joe. But I actually suspect that most of the people around here would condemn them just as readily as the extremists. It's not uncommon to see posts calling for the immediate closure of all mosques, a complete ban on all Muslim immigration (what about tourism, guys? Surely you don't want the dreaded towelheads here on holiday?), a ban on halal foods (not sure how that would work. You'd have to ban vegetables.), and even more far-fetched and xenophobic proposals. All premised on the paranoid delusion that all Muslims are basically sleeper agents for vagISIL and their ilk. Which sounds ridiculous to most people, but there's always a few nutters who take this sort of stuff seriously. And most of them seem to hang out around here.