In reply to Foxy:
The New Testament is the epitome of non violence. It is an accurate interpretation of Christ's teachings
The Koran is riddled with calls to arms.......violence and fear are its foundation.

Your statement that the Crusades starting in 1095AD were an act of Christian violence against Muslims and Islam is wrong.

Muhammad died in 632AD The Christian Crusades began in 1095 a period of 463 years. In around 450AD there were about 700 catholic bishoprics in north Africa. 250 bishops attended the council of Carthage in 535AD. By 950AD there 40 bishops left and by 1050 only 5 left. The Bishops and their Christian communities were raped pilaged and murdered unless they converted to Islam.

And THIS IS BEFORE THE CRUSADES!!

You tell people to look at history and garner the facts. But you don't state any facts or figures!
You state that people like me live in glass houses and should not throw stones ie we do not read form opinions and express ideas.
But you yourself offer no factual rebuttal.
You refer to Muslim grievences/frustration caused by economic political and social factors....but again no facts figures or arguments. Name the countries . Are you talking about Germany Britain France Australia.......?? Or Syria Iraq Yemen Somaliland etc etc etc??

I will finali

Foxy,

"You will never get to the end of the journey
if you stop to shy a stone at every dog that
barks."

What a depth of profundity!!

continuing my comments to Foxy:
Why do you give no references verifiable facts and figures? My hypothesis is that many people, young and older have been indoctrinated at School and University by biased curricula/teaching that does not present two points of view. It is possible that political correctness is a type of 'religeous indoctrination'. It neither asks questions nor answers questions. It seems to have elements of fanaticism which give the person a type of self righteous gratification.

Over to you Foxy

Dear Is Mise,

We all struggle with profound issues.

Glad you got the message though.

Dear RobinI,

If you bothered to read the links I gave in my posts and
the subject matters that I suggested posters can Google
for themselves - you would have the facts and stats you're
after. Do your own research. I merely pointed the way.

To Foxy,
It is your responsibility to put a brief summary of facts and figures that support your statements. I put a brief listing of my facts, so rebut them factually and show I am wrong

Robin

RobinL "The examples you give of 'Christian' violence ( eg anti abortionist killings) are so trivial. However they do raise the issue of your psychology and motivation RobinL"

Charming, You have no idea about my psychology or motivation RobinL, but are merely trying to big note yourself and your supposedly superior opinions.
You must surely feel humble in your own presence?
My opinion is my own, whether you like it or not.

Maybe you would feel more comfortable in a predominantly Christian country, like Ireland maybe? Oh no, wait a minute, they have certainly had their violent times in that country, and now they have voted in gay marriage!

Let's look at the 2 world wars, where millions died. They were both started by and finished by predominantly Christian countries.
What about what the Germans did to the Jews?
I could go on, but I am bored now....