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By Babette Francis, published 23/12/2015I am particularly concerned about his suggestion in regard to critics of Islam that it is 'blasphemous' to comment on someone else's religion.
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Posted by Beaucoupbob, Thursday, 24 December 2015 12:55:44 PM
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Putin wants to indoctrinate school kids on national values ( someone else said that here recently). Invading Turkey 100 years ago as the definition of Oz oi oi Anzac may not go down that well with young Abdulah.
On the other hand , what is the "blasphemy" that upsets Lewis? There seems to be a marathon inquisition of all churches in the sex abuse witch-hunt /priest-hunt. With calls for no celibacy and a shake-up of bachelor pride. Isn't that "blasphemy"? Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 24 December 2015 1:12:45 PM
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Thanks Babette for an excellent commentary. The incompatability of Islam
with other religious faiths and also the conflict between Sunni and Shia over many centuries was and is well known and documented. Your mention of the one million who died in the 1947 partition of British India, and the brutality inflicted on Bangladesh etc are historically recent and should have been a warning re the consequences of non discriminatory multiculturalism under UN treaties which were fully ratified are very important. It is beyond belief that given the recent events in Europe and the middle east that we have not withdrawn from these UN treaties and just initialled them. In 1978 we formed a small group to publish the long term dangerous consequences. The ABC rejected all requests for debate, so I hired an actor to mimick Alf Garnet, who said our group was getting lots of donations etc. The ABC radio had me on for an hour and 80% of listeners supported us. We were invited onto radio and television major newspapers etc Suddenly we were never again invited ie there was no debate in our democracy. Pauline Hansen, professor Blainey Bruce Ruxton etc received the same treatment. I have been trying to get local Christians to write to the local community newspapers re Christian persecution in the Middle East.WITHOUT success. I have a 90% success rate so it is not difficult. That is why people like Babette Frances are so important, RobinL Posted by robinL, Friday, 25 December 2015 2:09:46 AM
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Don't be ridiculous Babette.
You can't go around telling other religions what they should and shouldn't have in their holy book. Don't you think that would cause more trouble than good? If some young Muslims weren't radicalized before, they may well consider it if Christians like yourself suggest their holy book is 'wrong' or should be 'reformed'. Who made Christians the religious or moral police on this planet anyway? Those two young Muslim married couple who shot those people in the US recently were violent individuals who probably deserved what they got in the end, but they were really no more violent than the Christian pro-life terrorist who went on a shooting spree at the Planned Parenthood building in the US. Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 25 December 2015 2:32:58 AM
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Posted by vrak1984, Thursday, 31 December 2015 6:19:15 PM
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The following article makes interesting
reading and presents another perspective on what we as Australians should be looking at doing: http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-more-we-fear-islam-the-greater-the-danger-from-terrorists-20150515-gh2pvy.html Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 31 December 2015 7:50:11 PM
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The main problem is that Islam does not favour assimilation. We see mounting evidence, in Australia and world-wide, that most home grown terrorists are second or third generation. The refugee is grateful to get away from the hell of the Middle-East, and behaves himself. The next generation, brainwashed in school at the "undeserved inferior position of Islam in the world at large", perhaps feeling ashamed of his low position in Western society, is ripe for Islamic State propaganda.
We should close down all religious schools, as they are all divisive in our increasingly secular society, but Islamic schools are especially dangerous. If these children were forced to mix with Australian kids all through their school years, and could see that a better way of life exists, most of the problems of home grown terrorism would surely disappear.
As it is, we are paying to indoctrinate these youngsters. In a compulsory "History of Religion" class, they could learn the truth about their prophet, and learn more mathematics and science, rather than wasting years studying the Koran.