About time we restarted the discussion. Good to see an educated and rational analysis rather than a racist one. As a woman even I get a little scared when I see a Burqa.

Phil calls himself and "educated man"; however, 'arrogant' could suit him better. I don't know if their is a God anymore than people 'know' there is a God. I simply don't know; it seems impossible, but we humans may not be a smart and all-knowing as we think we are. I'll stick with agnosticism until I find out one way or the other - and there's only one way that can be done. And, as an atheist, Phil's opinions of the Christian religion are presumptuous and of no interest whatsoever. Hillsong is hardly the place to start!

On the positive side, Phil's comments on the over-representation of Muslim males in criminal activities is spot on. There is also the small matter of terrorism, although females are increasingly involved in that, too.

Burquas are, of course, completely unacceptable in a civilized, open society, and should be made illegal. The same applies to any medieval garments.

There is absolutely nothing but evil in Islam, and there is no chance of reformation. Politicians who allowed, even encouraged, Muslim immigration to Australia should be treated as traitors, and dealt with accordingly.

ttbn,

"Burquas are, of course, completely unacceptable in a civilized, open society, and should be made illegal. The same applies to any medieval garments"

Have a go at the Burga all you want but leave my shirt and trousers alone.

From Wikipedia,
"The world's oldest preserved garment, discovered by Flinders Petrie, is a "highly sophisticated" linen shirt from a First Dynasty Egyptian tomb at Tarkan, c. 3000 BC: "the shoulders and sleeves have been finely pleated to give form-fitting trimness while allowing the wearer room to move. The small fringe formed during weaving along one edge of the cloth has been placed by the designer to decorate the neck opening and side seam."

and

"The oldest known trousers are found at the Yanghai cemetery in Turpan, Xinjiang, China, dated to the period between the 13th and the 10th century BC. Made of wool, the trousers had straight legs and wide crotches, and were likely made for horseback riding"

And I suppose that means my codpiece has got to go?

Oh yes and the lack of orange and elephants in churches is a thing I have often deplored.

Good luck with a reformation of Islsm along 'New Testament' lines, btw. You're going to need it. (Hint: just read the Koran and hadith.) You've got Buckley's.

That TTb bloke is a nonconformist, and a far right Abbott worshipper.

What you say is fair comment, I do not like the burqua it should not be worn in Australia. In Australia they must conform to our basic laws no matter where they come from.

Unless this happens trouble will always be at hand. Australia will not be changing our way of life to conform to an oppressive life of our women.

There is no room for extremist behavior here. Those that follow that sort of life would be best served going back to where they came from. Change should be coming from the mufty to officially tell the people that they must conform to Australian life and assimilate into society.

If they can not bypass the parts of the Koran that does not fit with our laws, they will have to leave and live where they can be with likeminded people. Australia is home to a whole host of different nationalities and never before have a single nationality of people caused so much controversy.

Muslim women must be allowed to publicly speak, and work, or their tenure here will not be satisfactory