Good on you, Phil Dye. For a self confessed lefty, your article was well reasoned and accurate. If you can keep up the objective reasoning, you may become smart enough to morph into a right wing racist like me.

A couple of points of order, Phil.

Islam is already undergoing a reformation. Christianity was began by a pacifist and morphed into a very violent religion. it reformed itself when the Bible was translated into the national languages of the Christians, and disseminated to the ordinary people by the new technology of the printing press.

Islam was created by a warlord to make his soldiers invincible in battle, and to justify military conquest. Muslims are confounded that their people have become the most poverty stricken and technologically backward civilisation in the modern world. The stupid dummies think that the reason for that is because Allah has deserted them because they are not religious enough. That is why they are having a "reformation" too. They are returning to the original texts of the Koran and hadiths and they say "Keeell the eenfedel" "Enslave them" "Take their property". "Improve the progeny of their women."

Got it now?

Then there is the concept of the "moderate Muslim." Lotsa luck on that one. It has been done before and much less violent sects have arisen in the past, but they have almost always been exterminated by the mainstream Muslims. Even if "moderate" Muslims exist, and even if they are the majority, they are totally within the control of the supposed "minority" of "fundamentalist" Muslims. They will do what their leaders tell them to do.

Islam probably can not be made relevant to the modern world because Mohammad said that it was already perfect in it's 6th century form and it can never change. And it will never change while the world's leaders refuse to concede that the problem with Islam is Islam's own religious scriptures.

@ RobJ, Is Mise, 579, Mr Opinion, laxspirate, Toni Lavis & Phil Dye,
Q, How did the world's richest .001% train the sheeple to be willfully, ignorant, stupid idiots?
Q, How did the world's greediest capitalists fool us?
Q, Why do many sheeple choose, evil over good, wrong over right, ugly over beautiful, profane over profound & the behaviours that lead to failure over those that lead to success?
Q, How did the Australian mind close itself to reason & rationality? A, one of Americas most left wing comedians explains our foolishness.

"the Unified Field Theory of Dumb & Dumber" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDb3sTwD_vA

@ LEGO, if you have not seen the above speech or read the book you may appreciate it too & your correct about the possibility of Islamic reform, as well as the Christian enlightenment. Jesus teachings were perfect 2,000 years ago. Even the word "reformation" is misleading when referring to it because it was really about the Roman Catholic Church becoming corrupt & it needed enlightened, conservative, protesting Christians to clean out the corrupt individuals, their corrupt interpretations.

ISIS leader Al Baghdadi #1, has 4 or 5 degrees in Islamic studies from on of the most prestigious universities in Islam. When you read some Islamic scripture for yourself it easy to see that the terrorists are moderate in their reading of the Quran, but we must allow the PC Thought Police to suggest that it might be possible & see from the evidence that an Islamic reformation WILL fail.

You people have very little knowledge about the history and practice of Islam. I asked a simple question about what is the nature of the burqa and could not get a correct answer. It's no wonder that Australia's politicians and business leaders have been able to pull the wool over your eyes for the past thirty years allowing them to sell off Australia to China. They already have an ignorant population to rule over; all they have to do now is maintain a large Muslim group in the country with jihadic tendencies to keep the population in a state of fear. They keep you busy looking out for terrorists while they continue down the road of selling off Australia to China.

The burqa has nothing to do with ethnic diversity and everything to do with a war against women. Those who wear it, and those who insist it be worn, subscribe to an ideology in which women are inferior sexual temptresses, whose female form is a problem and must be covered. This is based on the contradictory proposition that men are both superior and yet unable to control their sexual urges if they see women in their natural human state. If this wasn't deadly serious, it would be funny.

//I asked a simple question about what is the nature of the burqa and could not get a correct answer.//

Are you saying they don't make people look silly?

Thanks 579.

It's good to see that there's someone else on Forum with some real knowledge.