Of course the other major romantic attraction to Muslim youth is that a caliphate exists, for now at least, and all it needs is for them to join it. What spawned this was the mistreatment of Sunnis by Bhagdad after the overthrow of their dictator.

Crushing IS on the ground will go part of the way towards reducing its appeal.

Abbot's statement of the need for Islamic evolution is true but not a the solution to the current problem. It just exacerbates it, with Indonesia now upset for example. He's still a bull in a china-shop, with aspirations of charging back into the ring, methinks.

Luciferase

You say -

“Let's see where money goes, if we get to know at all, and measure its effect upon the attitude of Muslim youth”.

“ Muslim parents will appreciate the appeal and the programs and get actively onside and vigilant”.

So what is your response to the parents being “on board and “vigilant”” to the 15 year old teenager who killed Mr Cheng?

Why didn’t they know/recognise their child was becoming radicalised?..or did they not just care?

A further 15 year old was arrested a few days ago. At his bail hearing his father sobbed.

Really – where was his father in the past, to not notice (or care) his son was becoming radicalised. When such son was living in the family home?

“The young person has a criminal history of possessing firearms”. Ms Ryan said in refusing bail. Magistrate Ryan denied bail request after judging him a “high risk” to the safety of the community”. She also said she believed his family could not monitor the teen as closely as police had recommended, as both parents worked”. Telegraph 12/12/

What 15 year old has a “history” of possessing firearms – where were the parents?

This 15 year old was not acting alone, he was in concert with others.

His lawyer yesterday condemned the Court system for refusing his client bail, as such “child” should be allowed to return to his home.

Continued -

His Lawyer knows the following facts -

His client is a 15 year old with "alleged" “history” of possessing firearms.!

His client a 15 year old has been on a “terrorist” radar for over 12 months! So at what age was this “child” radicalised and no one in his family knew! Hullo parents - where were you?

His client a 15 year old "alleged" to be sending texts with words (or words purporting to) of “going to get to paradise with the use of a firearm”!

If this 15 year old was bailed, with full knowledge to the Court and his Lawyer, he was at “high risk” to the community, if he – and his cohorts subsequently – did commit an act of terrorism on Aussies with lives lost, what then would be the stand of his Lawyer?

I applaud Magistrate Ryan in taking her stand in refusing bail.

You say –

“You can't kill an idea, only limit its communication and effect”.

I disagree – I believe we can “kill the idea”, however, it won’t happen overnight.

Many of us Aussies are standing up for all cultures (who immigrated here) and in so doing, are embracing the lifestyle of Australia being - “living in peace and harmony”, which has occurred for many generations.

You say -

“and I would ask some to take a chill pill and seek positive solutions”.

With great respect Luciferase – we have taken our “chill pill”, we are seeking “positive solutions” – however, we won’t be “walked over” by those who seek to commit terrorist acts on innocent Australians.

Australians support – wholeheartedly - our Government, police and various agencies in “unearthing” those that walk among us who seek to commit any act of terrorism in the name of “any” – so called - religion.

Luciferase

You say -

"Of course the other major romantic attraction to Muslim youth is that a caliphate exists, for now at least, and all it needs is for them to join it. What spawned this was the mistreatment of Sunnis by Bhagdad after the overthrow of their dictator".

Really – what basis/evidence do you have/believe “the romantic attraction to Muslim youth is that a caliphate exists” for those Muslim followers in Australia.

Is this a fact – and is it being preached in Mosques by Imams to “our” youth?

Or do you have any further evidence/knowledge that we aren’t aware of.

So his father cried !
I have the feeling that the father knew what his son was doing and approved.
It is a common thread, mothers being proud of their son's activities
when they are caught or killed. We have all seen it on TV.
He had guns in the house, one a long shotgun, hardly something you
keep under the bed. The house being raided by police previously.

I will bet quids this is not the only such family in Sydney.

Hi Bazz

I agree and now time for all Aussies to support Government and the Court system.

Am tired of the (Lawyers) who continually request "would be if given a chance" terrorists at any age - bail.