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Victorian same sex adoption law gets it wrong : Comments

By Kristan Dooley, published 29/10/2015

The Bill removes protections under anti-discrimination laws to exempt faith-based adoption agencies from having to facilitate same sex adoptions.

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Iamarightwingextremist,

That’s the Argument from Authority fallacy…

<<The link i provided is from a PHD Humanities academic as in Dr of.>>

So your point is invalid.

Evidence is what matters, not authorities.

<<Q, are you suggesting that humanities academics are UN-reliable?>>

No.

I am suggesting, however, that someone who provides no references or evidence for their claims is unreliable. Especially when they start getting into conspiracies surrounding the Illuminati.

<<i believe almost all academics lie 24/7/365 so i won't bother reading one word of your "scholarly works" & would not poison my body by wiping my arse on them.>>

When you resort to conspiratorial thinking such as that, then you’ve already lost the argument, and it should come as no surprise to anyone that you refuse to look at the peer-reviewed evidence that they provide. Clearly you are only interested in reading that which you already agree with.

<<i don't hate GLBT people, have many gay friends, who also do NOT want either gay marriage or adoption of children.>>

Yes. Yes, I‘m sure you do. So does damn near every other conservative on OLO. Allegedly.

Oh, and right back atcha' too.

ttbn,

I don’t think I was as clear as I could have been in my last post. I’ll go through this step by step for you:

You initially said, “Why no discussion on the truly horrible prospect of a child being handed over to a pair of homosexuals?”

You later said, “The idiots ... think that they are going to stop others from speaking their minds by calling them homophobes, bigots and whatever names their limited vocabulary permits”, suggesting that the labelling of a person as a “homophobe” was invalid and merely reflective of the accuser.

So I pointed out that in order demonstrate the validity of that claim, you would need to demonstrate the validity of your original claim to show that it has merit and that you are not just some bigot.

Playing the ‘wounded dear’ card, you refuse to (presumably because you can’t), then turn the focus onto myself in order to distract from the fact.
Posted by AJ Philips, Thursday, 29 October 2015 10:00:03 PM
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@AJ Philips, Thursday, 29 October 2015 8:14:58 PM

You are careful not to mention the restrictions on the findings and conclusions those studies to which you linked.

Just taking one of a number of restrictions from your first link, self-reporting,

"The study involved the use of data
collected from both adolescents and their parents,
but no observational data were available. Thus, we
had no observational assessments of adolescents’
actual interactions with parents, peers, or teachers,
but relied instead on adolescents’ and parents’ reports
about their interactions and relationships."

Usually goes with self-selecting and other restrictions in these 'proofs' that are not proofs of anything. At the best they are just possibilities, among others for research. For real research that is, and peer reviewed in a journal of substance one hopes)
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 29 October 2015 10:18:37 PM
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Suseonline, so you have no answer & am admitting i am right then? your last sentence is the perfect solution however, since it has been proven already that biological fathers are better at parenting than women. thank you darling for your honesty which is so unusual of most women. you should have more faith in yourself. BTW, humans have children dear, goats have kids. it was all part of communist feminist, stupidity training.

AJ Philips, your sophistry debating tactics will get you nowhere with me. GLBT commandment, "repeat the big lie, until it becomes the truth" Lenin. Christian commandment, "you shall not lie".

http://henrymakow.com/2014/12/mom-takes-on-lesbian.html
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Thursday, 29 October 2015 10:36:50 PM
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It boils down to rewarding perversion at the cost children.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 29 October 2015 11:40:26 PM
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Runner "It boils down to rewarding perversion at the cost children"

Yes indeed, like the Catholic Church rewarding their paedophile priests by moving them to yet another parish so they get a new selection of young victims you mean?
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 30 October 2015 1:32:30 AM
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As I know several lesbian couples with children, I can vouch for them being superb parents (a job I personally take seriously)

However, my objection to the Victorian laws is on a far more fundamental level. I see big brother coming in and overriding the last wishes of the mother and the organisation to which she has entrusted her child for purely political reasons.

Given that about 200 children are given up for adoption in Aus compared the tens of thousands that would love to adopt there must be suitable parents that fit just about any criteria, and I cannot see why the reasonable wishes of the mother cannot be accommodated, and why her rights are stripped.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 30 October 2015 4:52:49 AM
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