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What is the reality of ethnic communities? : Comments

By Richard King, published 21/10/2015

These different groups are assumed to have 'leaders' unelected and often unaccountable with whom, and through whom, the government speaks.

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Extremism, be it christian fundamentalism, with the worship of snakes, or at war with others over who owns God or the veracity or otherwise of his "approved" teachings? At the very root of these contrived differences is and always has been an inherent evil.

Were this not true there would be no conflict in the middle east and or thoroughly seduced folks going off to commit the most evil heinous acts known to mankind!

Simply put, folks are not born evil hating others for their beliefs or the color of their skin, rather than the content of their character.

We need to bring these still untainted kids together and allow them to interact, not fence them off in special schools that highlight every difference or perceived imperfection. We need to be a society that forbids divisive division and particularly in the formative years when almost every counterproductive or inherently evil belief is inculcated?

And if that should include intermarriage? Well not before time; given love conquers all! We should be guided by Martin Luther King's, I have a dream message.

Everywhere I look, there's some nasty miserable excuse for a (seig heil) human being is hammering home this or that cultural difference, there is also someone wanting to wield power, and the fool's strings pulled by an evil invisible owner/puppet master who owns them?

Time to cut these invisible strings and claim back our rights as the sons and daughters of the "universe" (creative force) that gave us life!

From nothing you get nothing or perceived impunity to act out just how you want to, without owning those actions? Actions which always have eventual consequences. Tell me I'm wrong when you have crossed death's door and come back as a witness?
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 9:46:27 AM
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In defence of those "musclebound morons" (of which I'm one) all they did in relation to the Parramatta shooting was wear blue armbands at their October 10 rally and take up a collection for NSW Police Legacy.
In an interview with Tom Elliot of Fairfax radio on 9/10 UPF spokesman Blair Cottrell condemned the protests outside Parramatta Police station and urged UPF supporters to stay away as nothing good could come of such actions.
I've posted the details of the "Neo Nazis" and troublemakers on this forum and detailed their links to the Young Liberals and other "conservative" groups. The Liberal Party and it's satellite groups are providing both the reaction and the solution to the problem of Islamic imperialism, they control the "Neo Nazis" as well as the "Community Leaders".
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 11:21:14 AM
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**Tell me I'm wrong when you have crossed death's door and come back as a witness?*

Wear your credentials with pride RHosty
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 11:21:52 AM
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"What is the reality of ethnic communities?"

What is the reality of Canberra pretending that it alone has the 'multicultural solution' that no other Western country has?

The most pressing problem is that Canberra assumes and Canberra abhors the very thought of consulting the public and giving 'them' any real say where the 'progressive' social policies of the unelected elite who advise and influence government are concerned.

Just when did the public give the feds a mandate for the 'diversity-we-are-obliged-to-have' (but other countries like Japan don't support) for example?

Rather than more million dollars of taxpayers' money being spent on ethnic advocates and multicultural spin, the feds should be apologising for NOT properly consulting with the public on immigration policy and NOT having adequate management controls in place to treat the obvious risks of immigration. Immigration is NOT a sacred cow. It suits migrants but has downsides for the host population.

BYW, didn't the present government admit there were lapses and possible corruption in the management of immigration? Whatever happened to the urgent review of the responsible agencies? Specifically, what practical controls were put in place and how exactly can Canberra assure the Australian public that government is exercising due diligence in immigration?

Precisely what proactive steps has Canberra taken to ensure that what happened in Rotherham and other centres in the UK do not happen here?

Rotherham,
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415251/lessons-rotherham-daniel-allott-jordan-allott-ben-allen

That is not to argue against any immigration. However it is rather obvious that immigration policy is more influenced by the desire of globe-trotting Oz politicians to look good on the world stage while telling everyone else how clever they are and giving away millions of taxpayers' dollars to get good press?

What the hell are naive Australian politicians doing on the other side of the world conducting rescues of economic migrants when there are forgotten 'Struggle Streets' and millions being poured into ineffective indigenous initiatives, especially in housing, at home?

Perhaps the best solution is to tell Oz pollies to stay at home and apply themselves to improvements in their own backyard for a change.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 11:32:00 AM
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Good on you Richard.

Ethnic communities however vary tremendously by social, economic and political measures.

My experience in the "Chinese community" over the last 30 years may add a different dimension to how multiculturalism has fallen short of its founding ideals.

What you say about ethnic leaders is in accord with my observations. In the case of the Chinese there is a "compradorship" element inherited from generations of ethnic Chinese becoming rich and influential by being useful and obsequious middlemen for the white colonial governments in South East Asia. Such successful Chinese compradors are the ones who send their children to the best of English-speaking schools and universities which then allow them to score the points for migration to Australia. Many such migrants, despite their western education, albeit often limited to the confines of a a highly enumerative profession, when they decide to become "community leaders" and self-appointed spokespersons, simply continue to follow the compradorship mentality that they had imbibed growing up in the colonies they were born into.

Unfortunately for us this is the sort of "model ethnic leader" our multicultural commissars and politicians have unwittingly encouraged - through decades of pork-barreling and bread and circuses masquerading as multicultural initiatives, in their pursuit of ethnic votes and political donations.

The result is that the governments do not really get competent and unadorned advice from the Chinese community leaders they succour. Worse still our current multicultural practice in effect still treats ethnics as second class: their anointed (often self-appointed) leaders are feted but the better acculturated and independent-minded Chinese-Australian are generally not invited to articulate their views on matters social or political. A dazzling example is how Charlie Teo, the demi-folk hero brain surgeon was roundly castigated by the media when he said that racism was still alive in his Australia Day address not so long ago. You see, the Chinese should know their place, and that is not to intrude into the realm staked by the white cultural custodians of our nation.

The Chinese are all right now. Sadly the "Muslim communities" are not.
Posted by Chek, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 11:35:26 AM
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It is not mainstream society's fault despite what the author says.

Many youths are alienated. Some youths who are Muslim are alienated. They may be alienated from Australian society and also from the Islamic mainstream of their elders.

The problem is that Muslim organisation Islamic State is intentionally tapping and turning some alienated Muslim youths into killers.

The ABC and some small l liberal journalists aid and abet this radicalisation process by saying it is our mainstream society's fault.

The best we can do is destroy Islamic State in the Middle East and here.
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 12:37:25 PM
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