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The iron law of terrorism prevention : Comments

By John Tomlinson, published 19/10/2015

The more spooks, spies and spivs we employ to spy on our and other citizens the outcome, in terms of the safety of our citizenry, is diminished.

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Q, would we even be having this conversation if left wing humanities academics had not decided "with malice aforethought" to import known terrorists in 1972?

Q, did any of these terrorism importation schemes originate in Socialist forum?

http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6276-islam-is-the-symptom-cultural-marxism-the-disease

Q, is the worst 1984 surveillance system in world history run by a left wing council?

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/concern-as-increasing-number-of-surveillance-cameras-keep-tabs-on-queenslanders/story-e6freoof-1226091457790

Q, did left wing religion create a crime wave before going hard on crime?
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Monday, 19 October 2015 6:09:08 AM
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This article is in desperate need of proof reading.
Posted by muuske, Monday, 19 October 2015 6:19:44 AM
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An utterly brilliant essay, exposing correctly what is so desperately wrong with Australia...and always has been if we would only lift the blinkers of nationalistic patriotism.
Violence begets violence is a truism but that doesn't mean it isn't true. Look at the USA, the most violent police, the most spied on population, the greatest disparity of wealth, the endless wars all over the globe. The result? More people in prison than any other state on the planet, more urban violence, more murders and a planet terrified to disobey the edicts of the USA corporate state because they know they will be economically and politically disabled, if not invaded.
Do we really want to go down that path? Why do basically decent, honest and kindly people, which describes over 75% of the planet's humans, according to the Common Cause Foundation, elect such vile leaders lacking in humanity, devoid of empathy, licking the coat-tails of corporate USA?
We certainly do need to rebuild the country. There's no point if tinkering with a model of government specifically designed to facilitate the vile colonial designs of England.
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 19 October 2015 8:33:56 AM
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"The more spooks, spies and spivs we employ to spy on our and other citizens the outcome, in terms of the safety of our citizenry, is diminished."
I'd expect such a negative correlation to exist because the worse our security situation becomes, the greater our need to employ spies and spooks would need to be. But while they're not always the best way of making us safer, your contention that they make us less safe is very dodgy.

And WTF are spivs listed there for? Not only does the standard definition not have anything to do with counterterrorism, but nor do any of the definitions listed on urbandictionary.com
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 19 October 2015 8:49:42 AM
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This article is written with a complete lack of knowledge of Islam. I suggest reading "The Story of Mohammed" to gain some insight.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1496019334 ($1 for Kindle version).
Posted by Peter L, Monday, 19 October 2015 11:10:43 AM
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This author with the Orangutan exterior seems in a time warp. No John "touched Abbott" is out of Government and "spiv" may be closer to thee.

Maybe Spiv the Author is on about the ghost of "Arfur" Daley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minder_(TV_series)#Arthur_Daley

And one last point "Border Force Black Shirts" originated from someone else (September 15) when Abbott still trolled the corridors of power http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17670&page=0#312689
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 19 October 2015 12:32:56 PM
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