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By Percival Blake, published 1/10/2015This deviation represents an adherence by Rosie to the Duluth Model, a theory which states that domestic violence is committed by men for the purpose of power and control over women.
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 2 October 2015 5:34:38 AM
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The term Alpha Male is a slur, the best men get the best women and vice versa, equality doesn't exist in the real world nor should it.
White Ribbon is a thinly masked attack on true masculinity which tars all men with the same brush, Feminists are bad women who hate good men because they can't control us, that's all it boils down to. Feminists still demand the protection and productive output of good men without the mutual responsibility and obligations that come with marriage to such men. Men who hurt women are degenerates, good men shun the company of degenerate men, ostracise them and in some circumstances we'll kill them. What White Ribbon wants to do is equate we good men with the degenerates so that the rules which apply to the worst can be used to control the best of us and harness our productivity to maintain essentially useless females. Feminists need society, society doesn't need Feminism and it's unrealistic to expect good men to take on the burden of dealing with bad men without compensation or without the whole society accepting our authority. So dear suffragettes,point out the abusers in my street to me and I'll form a posse and lynch them or make them my slaves so I can watch them at all times and control their behaviour. Then with the profits I make off the labour of those degenerates I'll open a benevolent fund to care for their wives and children and we'll all live happily ever after in patriarchy. Otherwise Rosie Batty, Clementine Ford,Ken Lay,Tom Meagher and the rest can keep their opinions to themselves. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 2 October 2015 6:53:32 AM
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<Women more Violent and Controlling than Men: Various Studies find
women-the-aggressors-in-dv June 27th, 2014, Roberta Parision Contrary to the overwhelming perception in society, numerous studies and statistics recently published from a variety of disparate sources have indicated that women are more likely to be verbally and physically aggressive to their partners than men, and are increasingly participating in serious acts of violence against other men, women, the elderly and children. The findings were presented to a symposium on “intimate partner violence” (IPV) at the British Psychological Society’s Division of Forensic Psychology annual conference in Glasgow. Dr Elizabeth Bates from the University of Cumbria and colleagues from the University of Central Lancashire gave 1104 students (706 women and 398 men) questionnaires about their physical aggression and controlling behaviour, towards partners and to same-sex others (including friends). Women were revealed to be more likely to be physically aggressive to their partners, and men were more likely to be physically aggressive to their same-sex partners. Women were also shown to engage in greater levels of controlling behavior, which is understood to be a predictor of physical aggression in both sexes. “This was an interesting finding,” Dr Bates says. “Previous studies have sought to explain male violence towards women as rising from patriarchal values, which motivate men to seek to control women’s behaviour, using violence if necessary. “This study found that women demonstrated a desire to control their partners and were more likely to use physical aggression than men. “It wasn’t just pushing and shoving,” Dr Bates said, of responses to the anonymous questionnaire. “Some people were circling the boxes for things like beating up, kicking, and threatening to use a weapon. “The feminist movement made violence towards women something we talk about. Now there is more support for men and more of them are coming forward.”> tbc.. Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 2 October 2015 10:06:38 AM
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<In another finding in Australia, the number of men who report experiencing domestic violence from their current partner has almost doubled since 2005, according to a new survey released last week by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS). The ABS Personal Safety Survey 2012 collected information from men and women aged 18 years and over about their experience of violence since the age of 15. Meanwhile, girls have been found to be more devious than boys in their torment of classmates, Australia’s biggest childhood study reveals. Kids who are poor, overweight, Aboriginal, disabled or living with a single mother are most likely to be picked on in the playground, the Australian Institute of Family Studies has found in a survey of more than 4000 children aged 10 and 11. Three in every five kids had been subjected to “unfriendly behaviour” in the past year, ranging from hitting to name-calling and being left out of social groups. And according to new national crime figures women are now outpacing men in the violence stakes, with the rate of women committing assaults jumping 49 per cent since the mid 1990s. Australian Institute of Criminology data shows the number of female assaults per 100,000 women increased from 125 to 186 between 1996 and 2010 compared to an increase of just 18 per cent for men, while other figures show that mother’s were by far the single biggest group responsible for child abuse and child murder in Australia. Griffith University’s Violence Research and Prevention Program director Professor Paul Mazerolle said there was “no question” young women were getting more involved in violence: “There’s been a moderate increase in [female] violence but we as a community are less tolerant of violence so we’re seeing more of a response from police.”> http://tinyurl.com/og598j5 Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 2 October 2015 2:32:26 PM
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ABC news online today: Rosie Batty is now sticking her nose into offshore detention centres. Only 1 of 1200 petition signatories, but she got the extra publicity from the ABC, saying that people concerned about domestic violence should also be concerned about 'other people in our care'.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:39:21 AM
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ttbn, you have 'stuck your nose' into the detention centre issue many many times on a public forum.
Why shouldn't Rosie Batty have a view and a say as well? Are you jealous that others listen to her and not you, is that it? Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 3 October 2015 12:23:29 PM
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By all means it may be true the male had some shortcomings of character.
He may have an aggressive alpha male attitude (and women have to take some personal responsibility as to the men they choose and the situations they put themselves in too - why are they attracted to the type of men who are more likely to beat them up?) and the bulk of the blame may rest on his shoulders.
But it may be just as possible this was initially a good man who has never raised a hand to anyone and was backed into a corner by a unhappy, spiteful, manipulative unreasonable broken woman.
I support any effort to deal with relationship issues and prevent domestic violence, but I oppose any effort that would see men unjustly victimised by an unfair system.
I don't want to see men dragged out of their homes by police for simply being involved in an argument that their spouse initiated.
- No matter how many women are killed, I won't support one man being treated unfairly based upon what another man did.
Women can (certainly not always) be just as responsible for acting unreasonably and inflaming relationship situations just as much as men.
This is a fact.
Its not just about domestic violence.
Its about preventing relationships getting to that point that's important.
Here's a campaign for ya - You want to change attitudes?
"Real men leave their women in better condition than they found them".
"Real women don't manipulate or undermine their men."