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Good racism is a bad idea : Comments
By Syd Hickman, published 31/7/2015For a start, booing people has a long tradition in Australian sport. Umpires cop it every week. Politicians have almost stopped going to sporting events because they get booed so enthusiastically.
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Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 2 August 2015 9:01:53 PM
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Fox, "I usually like to maintain a balance in my views"
That is just spin. You would say things like that. Recently you outed yourself as providing 'professional' services to migrant advocacy groups -read as 'asylum-seekers'(sic) too- one might assume. Not something you have volunteered before that could go some way towards explaining your incessant, intransigent sledging, criticism and blaming of Australians wherever you get an opportunity, for example as 'xenophobes', 'racists' and whatever. In this thread as in many others in the past you are 'on message' yet again. Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 2 August 2015 9:18:49 PM
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Dear Leo,
What I cited earlier was from The Age, Saturday 1st August, 2015 as I stated. We get The Age regularly. I enjoy their articles and Editorials and found the ones dealing with Adam Goodes well reasoned and intelligent. You referred to them as "egregious crap," that I had taken from the web and inflicted on you. I do not inflict anything on anybody. You are under no obligation to either read or respond to my posts. You are entitled to your opinion - but not your facts. And facts are what I prefer. I do not think that presenting an opinion as facts or false labelling of people is a good way to argue. Thank You for the blog by Dallas Scott. I am familiar with Scott and am pleased that you don't regard his blog as "egregious crap." Here are two more links that may be of interest that present another view on the subject by a journalist who is also an Aborigine - Amy McQuire: http://newmatilda.com/2015/07/28/imaginary-spear-outrages-australia-slap-wrist-hit-and-run-death-black-child-doesnt And - http://newmatilda.com/2015/05/30/adam-goodes-displays-his-culture-during-indigenous-round-australia-implodes Dear Banjo, There are many "outmoded" words that are no longer acceptable to most people. For example - "ni**er" referring to African negroes, "boong," "King Kong, or "Ape" referring to Australian Aborigines, "Dago" referring to Italians, "Wog" referring to migrants living in Australia and so on. And for Adam Goodes is entitled to hold a view different from possibly yours. He has explained what being called an "ape" means to Aboriginal people and the context in which historically it has been used in his people's history. I respect his position. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 3 August 2015 11:01:37 AM
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I'm extremely curious about our indigenous peoples' culture. As person who has traveled to all continents on this earth, one aspect of the culture that I'm interested in is language. Usually it is easy to find out something about the local language, but in my own country it seems hard to learn much about them (~250?) other than a couple of dozen words and next to nothing about the language structure. I've asked questions at NAIDOC week events and always draw a blank. I understand there is going to be an attempt to resurrect on the indigenous languages
It seems that non-indigenous Australia bends over backwards to patronize indigenous people. On the Australia website (www.australia.com) it says "Aboriginal people of Australia have a rich, living culture stretching back at least 50,000 years." It shows a photo of what looks like an indigenous person's hand painting with a non-indigenous drawing implement on a non-indigenous derived material. What is meant by "living culture"? A very primitive static culture embellished with non-indigenous culture? Similar questions could be asked about what is said to be indigenous music don't you think? Posted by Roscop, Monday, 3 August 2015 12:44:31 PM
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Dear Roscop,
It is now possible to explore the past by means of a large number of books, articles, films, novels, songs, and paintings. Most State, National, and Local Libraries have access to this material which can be obtained for you. All you have to do is ask. Visiting the Australian Museum in Canberra is also worthwhile. The following website may be a good place to start on the web: http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/ Posted by Foxy, Monday, 3 August 2015 1:17:17 PM
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The Australian has been surprisingly PC on this issue, labelling all those who criticise Goodes as “ignorant, cowardly and racist people” in an editorial. What is interesting is the overwhelming negative response in the ‘Comments’ to what Australia’s only national paper said. Considering The Australian has a pay wall, one might ponder the wisdom of alienating so many of their client base with a simplistic, group think, point of view one can get for free in the Fairfax press or the ABC.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/editorials/adam-goodes-the-ugly-treatment-of-a-proud-australian-hero/story-e6frg71x-1227465414407 Posted by Edward Carson, Monday, 3 August 2015 6:34:27 PM
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Hairiness,his big black beard
Without the beard I doubt whether she would have called him an ape.
That's what so annoys people that it was Good's hyper sensitive ideas about
racism that caused him to make a mountain out of a pimple. I grew up all my life in a town with aborigines
who have sung out and abused me and any other unforthunate white person
who happened to be passing by with racist remarks.
You never see white people complaining about the racial abuse to the media though.
They don't seem to realize that respect is earned. Adam Goods is seeing victimhood because that's what he wants to see.
And the whites realise this and resent his
Seeing racism because that was his interpretation of what the girl SaId not what she actually meant.