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Male champions of change : Comments

By Sarah Russell, published 24/4/2015

The aim of 'Male Champions of Change' is for men in positions of power to advance gender equality. Let's hope they have more luck than women have had in that task.

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RObert
I agree that demographic variables provide a much more informed picture of violence - who are the perpetrators and victims. A more informed picture also enables services to be better targeted.
It is my understanding that domestic violence is under reported by both men and women.
There is no doubt that men can also be victims of domestic violence. I appreciate the difficulties for men who are in these situations.
Posted by Sarah Russell, Thursday, 7 May 2015 12:20:25 PM
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Psychologists, point out the some people believe that if you don't agree with their opinion or ideas, then they believe you must hate them or not like them.

<Do you guys EVER stop to consider how ugly all your anti-feminist rage
< is? You just POUR out your anti-feminist venom to contaminate every
< gender thread on OLO and then you innocently claim that it's the
<FEMINISTS who are bullying the men? (Hardly any women ever even
<participate on the gender threads, let alone feminists. There's only
< ever me and Suse and that's about it ... up against at least a dozen raging and fuming anti-feminist dudes per thread.)
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 4 May 2015 11:16:24 PM

When I was first confronted with the idea that feminist research was
advocacy research and manipulated, I too, did not at first believe it.

<When feminists rightfully challenge this so-called research, they are portrayed as trying to silence all criticism of female violence
< and to control the discourse on DV as only something men do to
<women.

Posted by Killarney, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 6:46:00 PM
Posted by Wolly B, Friday, 8 May 2015 8:06:41 AM
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It is my understanding that there are some women, who believe that they are better and superior to men.

<Men are never going to be 'champions of change' until they face up to two things: 1. their crippling fear of female power and 2. the cultural
< relationship between violence and male identity.
Posted by Killarney, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 6:46:00 PM

This next question is soo TABOO, to ask.

There are women who do use their femininity to get what they want, to
manipulate and control the men in their lives or men in brief encounters.
Posted by Wolly B, Friday, 8 May 2015 8:16:51 AM
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Dr Russell,
You asked some time ago why it is that feminism has come to assume a pejorative connotation for many people.

I think this story in today's press may shed some light

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/men-feeling-under-siege-after-revelation-man-was-wrongly-accused-on-facebook-of-being-a-creep/story-fnjwnhzf-1227347049059

This is an extreme, but by no means isolated example of the effect of "priming" in distorting perceptions.

Unfortunately for sincere egalitarians like yourself, the "normative" feminist in the public eye is much more a strident spreader of deliberate misinformation designed to promote a political agenda that is by no means even remotely egalitarian.

Fathers afraid to be seen near children is just one of the negative outcomes.
Posted by Craig Minns, Friday, 8 May 2015 5:48:46 PM
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Posted by Craig Minns, Friday, 8 May 2015 5:48:46 PM

I would take my daughter to an indoor pool, and one woman filmed me with her. She was only 3 or 4 at the time and I'd be in the pool with her.
Posted by Wolly B, Friday, 8 May 2015 6:38:58 PM
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<Many men (thankfully not all) display a disturbing cognitive
< dissonance about female power and control. Moving in packs – either
<physically, emotionally or intellectually - is a common male-defensive
< tactic designed to alleviate their fear of female power. It’s also a
<common form of male violence designed to psychologically intimidate
<and control both men and women.

by Killarney, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 6:46:00 PM

During WW1 the white feather brigade would mob and intimidate any male civilian.

<“Mrs. Pankhurst toured the country, making recruiting speeches.
<Her supporters handed the white feather to every young man they
<encountered wearing civilian dress, and bobbed up at Hyde Park
<meetings with placards: “Intern Them All.”

http://historyoffeminism.com/white-feather-campaign-second-world-war/

The use of a tactics like "guilt tripping" or 'transference' where others are accused of doing the very thing, that one's self is doing.
Posted by Wolly B, Friday, 8 May 2015 7:23:50 PM
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