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Netanyahu puts behaviour change by Iran on negotiating agenda : Comments

By David Singer, published 11/3/2015

Iran's goons in Gaza, its lackeys in Lebanon, its revolutionary guards on the Golan Heights are clutching Israel with three tentacles of terror.

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"The P5+1 must ensure that Iran abandons its belligerent behaviour – or terminate the negotiations."

I think the article is missing the final page, you know, where it describes the plan for what happens after terminating negotiations.

Or do you not actually have any solutions after this stage? I didn't hear any from Netanyahu either.
Posted by Stezza, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 7:59:41 AM
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P.S.

As a supporter of nuclear power, perhaps a good strategy for Australia would be to end up in a situation where a major power (such as China?) tells us we can't have it. I bet most Aussies would demand it then!
Posted by Stezza, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 8:02:16 AM
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>A decade is but the blink of an eye in the history of a nation<

The mandated termination of new Jewish settlements in the west bank another must do, if Netanyahu is genuinely seeking peace with neighbors, as opposed to more sabre rattling on behalf of its long standing American ally!

And given that termination, a "blink of an eye" decade is all the time the Israeli Arabs need to out-populate the Jews, and therefore as voters in a "democracy"; control parliament and Israel's nuclear arsenal and destiny!

Netanyahu needs to lead by example, and stop indiscriminately bombing the piss and pick handles out of Gaza.

Its already rubble sir!

Better intell, and targets painted for precise surgical removal, is all the counter measures needed; along with a better umbrella.

They could do worse than install some automated metal storm responses, on vacant land, so that the returning metal and rocket debris, just doesn't fall on/threaten populated centres?

And when Netanyahu stops behaving as he claims Iran is, [his Mossad is everywhere,] perhaps the world might listen to him?

It is said the best defense is to carry a big stick and talk softly?

However, Netanyahu seems to carry a twig and bellow like a very disturbed alpha male buffoon!

Which probably explains why he got a standing ovation from a conservative controlled congress?

Yes, by all means keep a close eye on Iran, just don't cruel the chance for peace with endless Putin like sabre rattling!
Rhrosty
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:27:19 AM
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"Iran's goons in Gaza, its lackeys in Lebanon, its revolutionary guards on the Golan Heights are clutching Israel with three tentacles of terror."

Hoo bloody rae"

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:00:00 PM
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No wonder OLO's ratings are down with articles by Singer appearing on a regular basis. Perhaps the Zionists own this site just like the Murdoch press.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 4:58:25 PM
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#Stezza

You state:
"I think the article is missing the final page, you know, where it describes the plan for what happens after terminating negotiations.

Or do you not actually have any solutions after this stage? I didn't hear any from Netanyahu either."

The article was published in its complete form.

If the negotiations break down - what happened before the negotiations will resume - sanctions and more sanctions until Iran abandons its belligerent behaviour.

#Rhrosty

Netanyahu made it clear that Israel and its neighbours could live with an Iran that kept its belligerent nose out of other State's affairs. Iran's presence is found in Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Lebanon. It threatens Israel and Saudi Arabia. Calling on the P5+1 to insist that Iran desist from such behaviour can hardly be called "sabre rattling"

#VK3AUU

No doubt the spectre of 6.5 million Jews being thrown out of their homeland is feeding your Jew-hating taste buds with glee.

Growing the total of 57 Islamic States to 58 is the way you obviously want to go.

Its your choice and you can live with it.

#Arjay

Can you please direct me to the ratings referred to by you. Never knew any such ratings existed.

Maybe it could be inane comments like yours that are the reason for the decline in those ratings.
Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 9:36:08 PM
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I think that anyone with an ounce of intelligence and a desire for the truth should go to the following link http://mycatbirdseat.com/2015/03/90536the-power-of-israel-over-the-united-states/ and read a more factual account of reality rather than Mr Singer's fantasy written in his post.

Nice one David, unfortunately for you, some of us are not stupid.

Perhaps a time will come when David's ridiculous posts will be exposed for what the really are; a bloated, one sided, myopic rant from a rabid Zionistic lunatic who sanctions lies and continued murder of innocent people in the name of some fabled deity.
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Thursday, 12 March 2015 1:15:58 AM
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"If the negotiations break down - what happened before the negotiations will resume - sanctions and more sanctions until Iran abandons its belligerent behaviour."

You assume that sanctions will lead to Iran submitting to the will of the US/Israel. This is not correct, it must be paired with options to either escalate (war) or deescalate (negotiations).

Netanyahu and Singer obviously want the option to escalate toward war.
"If sanctions don't work, they have to know that you'll be prepared to take military action -- that's the only thing that will get their attention," Netanyahu, July 2013.

The US knows that it can't afford to escalate against Iran to the point of war, especially now they are working together to fight IS in Iraq. The strategy seemed to be to use sanctions to gain the most favorable position possible, and then deescalate through negotiation. Abandoning this strategy will most likely result in many more years of sanctions, threats and escalation/deescalation cycles before ending up in a very similar position to today, but perhaps with even more of Iran's proxies throughout the region.
Posted by Stezza, Thursday, 12 March 2015 3:40:45 AM
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Bending Israel is impossible
Only realize there is no Israel
Posted by YEBIGA, Thursday, 12 March 2015 6:21:42 AM
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That's right Geoff,

US State Dept of Home Security
DEJA VU NAZI GERMANY
De-fund Homeland Security Now !
Posted by Preston James, Ph.D on February 24, 2015
Homeland Security was set up by Israeli-American "Israeli-first" Dual Citizens as an Israeli police State occupation army inside America and it's time to completely de-fund it and destroy it forever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee#Criticism
AIPAC's success is due to its ability to reward legislators and congressional candidates who support its agenda, and to punish those who challenge it. ... AIPAC makes sure that its friends get strong financial support from the myriad pro-Israel PACs. Those seen as hostile to Israel, on the other hand, can be sure that AIPAC will direct campaign contributions to their political opponents. ... The bottom line is that AIPAC, which is a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on the U.S. Congress. Open debate about U.S. policy towards Israel does not occur there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
• Most European capitals are targets for our [Israel's] air force....We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under." -- Martin Van Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

• “We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us.” --An Israel official quoted in the 1991 book "The Samson Option".

• “Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.” --General Moshe Dayan, a leading promoter of Israel’s nuclear program

• “Israel could respond [to an Iraqi attack] with a nuclear retaliation that would eradicate Iraq as a country.” --Israeli defense analyst Zeev Schiff, 2002

Cont'd
Posted by Constance, Thursday, 12 March 2015 10:07:46 PM
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http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/israelithreats.html
Originally a strategy of last resort retaliation - even if it means Israel’s annihilation - it has developed into being a nuclear bullying strategy to further Israel’s territorial goals through threats and blackmail. Israel has bullied not only Arab and Muslim nations, but the United States and Russia with its Samson Option threats. Mordechai Vanunu has alleged that Israel uses for purposes of blackmail its ability to "bombard any city all over the world, and not only those in Europe but also those in the United States."

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/File:Israeli_professor_says_we_could_destroy_all_european_capitals.jpg

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/File:Israeli_professor_says_we_could_destroy_all_european_capitals.jpg

http://www.adl.org/

http://www.bnaibrith.org.au/

http://www.bnaibrith.org/
http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/anti-semitism-international/adl-harshly-criticizes-former-french-minister-for-his-comment-on-jewish-influence.html

1963: Kennedy refuses to sign any security arrangement with Israel. After Kennedy assassination brings the very pro-Israel Lyndon Johnson to power. (Not surprisingly there is an assassination conspiracy theory that the Mossad killed Kennedy.) The link is now missing. Wonder why?

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/09/how-washington-helped-create-is-201493144249940421.html

A site called Zionist Crime Factory has within last month been SUSPENDED! Who are the censors of the internet? Who is mainly controlling the internet? Guess who?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/21/making-you-an-agent-of-the-state/

https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/isis-is-run-by-simon-elliot-a-mossad-agent-reports-and-links-collection/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/04/french-report-isil-leader-mossad/
Posted by Constance, Thursday, 12 March 2015 10:12:33 PM
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I do not hate Jews, but I do hate the dishonest way the Zionists in the state of Israel have treated the Palestinian Arabs since the Balfour Declaration. Most of the world had sympathy for the Jews after the holocaust, but that sympathy has since evaporated. The world outside of Jewry does not see Jews as God's chosen people.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Friday, 13 March 2015 9:39:04 AM
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Isn't yahoo guilty of using this pseudo rationalist propaganda in 1995?
Posted by Chicane, Friday, 13 March 2015 7:05:36 PM
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Just a reminder David. The lunatic neo cons in Israel, Britain and the USA think they can win a limited nuke war against Russia and China. No one will win.

"Obama is owned by the private US Federal Reserve and the rest of the central bankers who create from nothing all,the money for our Corporates and Governments to exist. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

The Central Bankers own us and our Govts thus they can buy any politician, media outlet or movie star to further their agenda of a fascist New World Order,run by them.

They no longer need the masses of humans for production or consumption because of the development of computers and robotics. This new technology is all about benefiting a few elites. Like Hitler, they want to produce the super race and 6 billion people in their view,are foiling their objectives.

Maurice Strong the ex secretary to the UN and many others have all said the world is way too over populated and global warming will destroy the planet. Maurice Strong is an oil Billionaire. Bill Gates has echoed a similar need for eugenics. The masses in their view are redundant and need to be exterminated. This is why WW3 looks inviting to the lunatic ,fascist, psychopaths who see some manifest destiny in Biblical Prophecies."

Do you David consider yourself to be one of God's chosen people destined to rule the planet?
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 13 March 2015 8:11:06 PM
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Think NEW WORLD JEWISH ORDER – its all in the Talmud created 400AD I am told (the written one anyway). Huh!

The Modern (false) Jews OR ZIONIST are inbred Khazars (was a Jewish state) or possibly Moguls, lacking the spiritual gene. Utterly ruthless. So have created the world we have today thru Marxism, Communism and Capitalism. Notice all the corporation and political correctness occurring, and of course the Anti-Christianity. They created the Reformation (PROTESTants) to weaken the CC and Orthodox churches. Think New Age (New Paganism).

I have never in my life held anything against Jews till only recently. I’ve had Jewish friends and even have cousins who are half Jewish.

They control all Western media, particularly in the USA and many corporations including heaps of technology which is having detrimental effects on our health (Wi-fi).

The Reasons Historians Call
WWII A 'Jewish Creation'
http://www.rense.com/general29/why.htm

Nicholas Kollerstrom - Breaking the Spell, The Holocaust Myth and Reality
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2015/02/RIR-150225.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew#Volume_1:_The_International_Jew:_The_World.27s_Foremost_Problem_.281920.29
How Jews in the U.S. Conceal Their Strengthhttp://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ij21.htm

General Remer
On the New Jewish World Order
http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/remerin.htm
http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/11.html

http://www.radioislam.org/quotes/q001-050.htm
http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/toread/talmud2.htm
https://archive.org/stream/TheInternationalJew/InternationalJew_djvu.txt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans_of_Hungary#Expulsion (by the Commies)

The Freemason Anglo Zionist cabal exported all their food and crops from Ireland after invasion killing 40% of the population. The Potato Famine myth are pure lies. Has there ever been a BBC doc made about Cromwell’s Ireland.

Cont..
Posted by Constance, Saturday, 14 March 2015 9:37:54 PM
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...Cont

Chris Fogarty - The Irish Holocaust
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2015/02/RIR-150216.php

And the Armenian Holocaust. Yes, No, still more or less ignored.

And all were Christians of course.

As the Christians have been continually persecuted throughout history, and still are, but hardly in the media (because it is controlled by you know who).

So, who are the real Jews? US (you and me), Christians, and Ex Christians (their plan worked there didn’t it? )

Now, is EVERYBODY HAPPY IN TODAY’S WORLD HAPPY? where we all work like slaves and are slaves to our mortgages and our taxes.

USURY (interest) was a sin in the Catholic Church. And which people love usury?

Just about all the wars, assassinations (previously posted about) demonically planned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew#Volume_1:_The_International_Jew:_The_World.27s_Foremost_Problem_.281920.29
How Jews in the U.S. Conceal Their Strengthhttp://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ij21.htm

It is statistically proven that 40% of CEOs are psychopaths.

I have found a lot of weird stuff on Zionist and Jewish sites.

Please see "The Matrix" movie. That is their theology?!

Judaism is an Atheist cult with Satanic elements.

They also invented modern psychology and have worked out how us Gentiles think in order to undermine and operate as the Masters of Deception. There have been quite a few corrupt (them) US presidents also. There is so much info, and I don't have the time.

The USA is virtually Israel.

In fact, all the West is practically Israel. It is hardly safe to mention you are Christian now.

Mass immigration, gay marriage etc.

ZionistCrimeFactory site was recently suspended. Guess who by?

DIVIDE AND CONQUER
Posted by Constance, Saturday, 14 March 2015 9:41:05 PM
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Gee Constance, so much hatred in your post!

Constance "It is statistically proven that 40% of CEOs are psychopaths."
Really?
What statistics?
And if so, shouldn't they all be in prison then?

"Judaism is an Atheist cult with Satanic elements. "
A bit dramatic, even for you Constance, especially given that Jesus Christ was Jewish.

If Judaism was, in fact, an atheist cult, surely there wouldn't be 'satanic' elements, given that atheists don't believe in the gods or Devils that others imagine are out there somewhere....
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 14 March 2015 10:20:50 PM
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ChairmanSueMao,

You can’t help yourself, can you? Do you have any consciousness of the world around you. Have you no idea that the world is becoming more and more corporatized and that our freedom of speech is being more and more limited. You really must love big government and the elites. Easier, isn’t it?

Tell me what you know about Judaism and Communism? You continue to rant empty knee jerk reactions and never offer anything of substance to dispute what I say. TROLL. You seem to have no real compassion for your fellow man and you couldn’t give a stuff about how the world is going.

The rat race only suits the rats.

Please go ahead, dispute me of what you know nothing about. Get floored again like you did before on the religion you really love to hate. Oops, must have been embarrassing for you? Even David Singer was involved in that one, putting you rightly in your place.

You are brainwashed and fall for all the propaganda, Stepford Darling.

I’m ready, and up for the challenge.
Posted by Constance, Sunday, 15 March 2015 8:19:01 PM
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I USA to be a Jew
Gave it away, much happier being a magpie
Posted by YEBIGA, Monday, 16 March 2015 7:42:38 AM
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Psychiatry (and medications), think the juggernaut of Sigmund Freud (FRAUD), and Peter Singer who thinks its okay to have sex with animals. Why or how the hell did these two people for example dominate us so much?

Israeli soldiers televise pornography in Ramalla.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/04/01/1017206174636.html

Porn the new weapon of choice
http://www.news24.com/xArchive/Archive/Porn-the-new-weapon-of-choice-20020330

Compare Lord of the Rings (Catholic theology) to the Matrix (Jewish theology). The Dark Middle Ages (pre industrial) is a myth. Recommended book “How to be Free” by Tom Hodgkinson. The people in the European Middle Ages were free and the peasant serfs had it good. Our history has been controlled and we have been duped.

Enigma - Age Of Loneliness (ourcurrent real Dark Age)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APW_QwzGg2o

Enigma - Return To Innocence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_sAHh9s08

Anthony Migchels - Hour 1 - Usury: The Problem with the Economic System & Alternative Currencies
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/11/RIR-141128.php

The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind (Documentary) - Hidden Secrets of Money 4 | Mike Maloney
https://youtu.be/iFDe5kUUyT0

Why Gold & Silver? - Mike Maloney - Silver & Gold Investing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5VNAEmmBQM

President Kennedy wanted to introduce the Silver Dollar to break the power of the Jewish controlled Federal Reserve.

Cont...
Posted by Constance, Monday, 16 March 2015 4:47:27 PM
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MATRIX SEMINAR
http://www.aish.com/sem/mat/?s=fw (Jewish site)
Overview: The film is a powerful metaphor expressing universal concepts of Judaism.

A Bob Dylan film, "Masked and Anonymous", "The Fight Club" and "Magnolia" are all three very thought-provoking. Nothing like the Matrix and the way it can be explained in the way used so well by AISH; but they are sure in my 'Top 10'!

Definition:
Olam, the Hebrew word for "world", is from the root meaning "hidden". The world is God's mask. Peel back the layer of this world and look beyond the Matrix to get a glimpse of The Programmer.

There is a Master Programmer, beyond the Matrix, and the universe is His program.
Beyond the Matrix, who says fire must burn? A select few throughout history have transcended the Matrix of this world, breaking the rules and rewriting the program.
When the Jews stood at the Red Sea, they didn't have to dodge the water. They went right through it.

Ignorance is Bliss (blue pill)
Most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.

We all have a death wish. The body's underlying drive is suicide – the ultimate state of feeling no pain. In the meantime it'll settle for suicide in installments – just one more drink, one more hit. And anybody that tries to stop it... watch out! The body wants escape. The soul yearns for reality, for Zion.

This is my ship, the Nebuchadnezzar. It's a hovercraft...
The Nebuchadnezzar is indeed a Biblical reference, from the book of Daniel.

Nebuchadnezzar's rule marked the transition from the biblical period of open miracles and prophecy to a new world where miracles are hidden and decisions are made based on intellect.

Nebuchadnezzar's life traced the path of awareness and awakening, and change. A very appropriate name for a craft whose crew is dedicated to just that, bringing an awakening to mankind."

Cont......
Posted by Constance, Monday, 16 March 2015 4:52:28 PM
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...Cont

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Bible/stjohn.html

"I like your modern interpretations of biblical Judaism. But it seems that you pick and choose what commandments are still relevant, and just ignore the primitive ones. For example, the Torahcommands the Israelites to wage an eternal war against the nation of Amalek (Non Jews or Gentiles anyway), and to wipe them out totally. If the word of G d is eternal, why aren't you armed and dangerous, seeking out Amalekites to kill?
Answer:
I've got news for you -- I do seek out Amalekites. Between you and me, I've even killed a few. You should try it, it's not nearly as bad as it sounds. No one gets hurt, and it feels great. But first you have to learn to identify who Amalek really is.
Amalek was an ancient Middle Eastern nation that had an inborn hatred towards Israel. The Amalekites took any opportunity to attack Jews for absolutely no reason. There was no land dispute or provocation that caused this hatred - it was an intrinsic pathological need to destroy G d's people. Such hatred cannot be combatted through diplomacy. There was no option to re-educate the Amalekites or review their school curricula. Their hatred was not taught - it was ingrained. As long as an Amalekite walked the earth, no Jew was safe. It was a clear case of kill or be killed. A Jew had to take the command to kill Amalek quite literally - his life depended on it.

In time, the Amalekite nation assimilated into the people around them. Their inborn hatred became diluted as their national identity dissolved, and the command to kill them became impossible to fulfill. This was no accident of fate. The G d who authored the Torah is also the Author of history. He decided that the time had come that this command should no longer apply in its literal sense. It was time for the Jewish people to move on.

Cont....
Posted by Constance, Monday, 16 March 2015 10:42:42 PM
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But this doesn't mean that Amalek has disappeared. Amalek is alive and well today, albeit in a different form. No longer a foreign nation, today's Amalek is an internal enemy. We each have an Amalekite lurking within our very self. The inner Amalek is unholy cynicism. That little voice inside each of us that derides, belittles and attacks truth and goodness; our irrational tendency to mock people who act morally, to be cynical when we see altruism, to doubt our own or other's sincerity - these are the modern day Amalekites. They wage a lethal war with our soul. If we let it, cynicism can kill our every attempt to improve ourselves and smother any move towards refining our character and expressing our soul.

There is only one effective response to Amalek's attacks: Annihilation. Don't argue back, it won't work. The power of cynicism is that it is irrational. The most inspiring, uplifting and profound moment of spiritual awakening can be dismissed in an instant by Amalek's sarcastic taunts. The most logical and sound arguments can be deflected with his quick one-liners -- "Get real!", "Who ya kidding?" or "Hey, you think you're so holy-moly?" There is no answer to such cheap pot-shots. You can't fight cynicism with reason. Just wipe it out. No dialogue. No compromise. Erase it from the face of your soul.

Next time your cynical Amalekite raises his ugly head, stomp on it. Beat him at his own game: Do good things for no good reason. Be kind without an explanation. Love your fellow irrationally. Become the hero of your own inner battle, and free your captured soul--kill an Amalekite today."

Cont....
Posted by Constance, Monday, 16 March 2015 10:45:22 PM
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Constance, you seem a little uptight?

What on earth do you have against the Jews? All Jews?
I ask again, wasn't Jesus Christ a Jew?

And you still haven't answered my question above :
Constance "It is statistically proven that 40% of CEOs are psychopaths."
Really?
What statistics?

Take it easy Constance.
Suse
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 16 March 2015 11:07:55 PM
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Suse,

Constance seems a tad confused...in so much that she can't seem to decide which group of people to demonise at any given moment.

She's already assured us that Islam is the Devil.

She's now giving a hefty collective serve to Jews.

She writes:

"You can’t help yourself, can you? Do you have any consciousness of the world around you. Have you no idea that the world is becoming more and more corporatized and that our freedom of speech is being more and more limited. You really must love big government and the elites. Easier, isn’t it?"

Which is roundly critiquing the system presided over by the Christian West.

She parades herself around here at increasing velocity in some kind of dizzy tirade, by means of which she unloads copious quantities of rambling disjointed bluster - none of which are at all coherent - and added to that she roundly abuses anyone who has the temerity to call out her scattered and unbalanced rants.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 12:00:59 AM
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Indeed Poirot.
I do worry about the increasing incidences of anti-Jewish sentiment in some parts of the world today. It proves that racism and bigotry is alive and well.
It seems to be growing at the same rate as anti-Muslim sentiment?

If only one's belief in gods (or no belief) did not matter to anyone else.
Wouldn't we have a less conflicted world?
From where I am standing, no one religion is any better or worse than another....they all cause conflict somewhere in the world.
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 1:19:55 AM
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Ooh, it's those scary troll stepford sisters from the coven again, and again and again.

Who surprise, surprise, have nothing to actually say.
Posted by Constance, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 8:33:14 PM
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Sigh......there is nothing anyone can say to you that would make any difference Constance.
So much anger must get you down surely?
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 8:39:03 PM
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