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Saving democracy from the extremists : Comments

By Junaid Cheema, published 25/2/2015

The publication had a very un-Australian affect on the readers - comments flooded the paper's social media site vilifying Muslims, promoting hate and creating divisions amongst Australians.

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The left are continually screaming at us we must apply the precautionary principle to the global warming scare, even though there is not one shred of evidence that it is happening.

Now surely, with the high level of proof that Islam & the west do not mix, & that Islam is attacking the west wherever it can, that same precautionary principle should apply.

We should deport all Muslims to somewhere we don't care about, & never let any into our midst.

Seeing how Tasmania is such an economic drain, we should make it the only place where Islam may be practiced. It could again actually contribute something useful to the wellbeing of those who fund it, mainland Australians.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 26 February 2015 11:13:39 AM
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Hasbeen,
The White Nationalists want Tassie for their "White Israel", the idea is that the mainland can go up in flames and become a multiracial hell while down there they all brew mead to drink on Samhain, make bespoke Celtic jewelry and worship Odin and Hitler.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 26 February 2015 1:09:51 PM
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The EXTREMISTS vs Faith

The Author draws attention to a historically verified lesson that extremism is unhealthy for a society as a whole.

The ‘extremists’ respond to this sane suggestion with their characteristic fury and loud intentions to continue maligning Islam.

Are they any different from extremists within Islam who promote extreme views against the West? I don’t think so, because:

1- MALIGNING a FAITH is WRONG: Maligning a faith is against all accepted norms of a civilised conduct that the humanity has finally come to adopt from the painful lessons;

2- MALIGNING a FAITH is NOT HELPFUL: Maligning a faith is counterproductive to peace within any society and in the world at large;

3- MALIGNING ISLAM is BASELESS: As seen previously (will probably have to be repeated here, as well), the misinformation on Islam has been universally jettisoned by the mainstream scholar ship of today – thanks to the research methods of the age of reason. Because of the modern research the medieval distortions have been pushed to the extreme fringe, outnumbered but existent, nevertheless. These distortions are closely held and repeatedly pedalled by the ‘extremists’, yet the distortions fail to stand a reasonable scrutiny.

4- ISLAM is MALIGNED to CHANGE the CONTEXT: Some of the highly deplorable actions of the Muslim extreme fringe is linked to about one million of innocent civilians killed in Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq etc. Not a single ‘extremist’ would even mention that. He or she must declare the Faith of the victims to be the sole cause ignoring any link to the carnage humanity has seen in recent years;

5- The EXTEMISTS and NOT the FAITH MUST be the TARGET: The extremists, Islamic and anti-Islamic alike, are the ones to be discouraged and checked. This society, like any other society, is entitled to make laws to handle them.

I hope the Prime Minister’s intention to clamp down on those "who incite religious or racial hatred" works in true spirit of the words. Any approach or strategy that shift focus from individuals to a Faith will be counterproductive in all probabilities.
Posted by NC, Thursday, 26 February 2015 2:26:05 PM
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JKJ, Islamic youths are merely the group du jour that happens to be disaffected and alienated within Australia, just as Irish (Catholic, significantly) youths once were, Vietanamese (Buddhist) youths once were, Greek and Italian (Orthodox and Catholic) youths once were...

In other words, the moral panic you're trying to whip up is entirely confected and I stand by my original comment.

ISIS is less relevant to Australia than the Irish Troubles were, but those of weak minds and weaker prostates are always looking for something to get their tired old blood flowing. However, humans are an iterative process in operation: they too, shall pass.

Hasbeen, surely an old salt like you who's braved the headhunters and p1ssed into cyclones can handle a few spotty unemployed trouble-makers?

JoM, I'm not sure that Huon pine is much good for mead barrels and Tassie Oak is actually a eucalypt, so it might be a good idea to check on eBay for oak suppliers before catching the ferry. Mind you, all those poppies might make some really interesting mead. The backpackers will love the place!
Posted by Craig Minns, Thursday, 26 February 2015 2:34:05 PM
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Is publicly stating that I think a particular faith is wrong maligning that faith?

Should I ignore the pictures and 'faith' of an eleven year old boy holding up a severed human head and say that this happened because of those killed in Palestine?

I am sorry, but I cannot agree with whatever faith beheads innocent journalists, throws homosexuals off buildings and gets children to execute prisoners.

What is the 'faith' of the people who do that?

What do we call it?
Posted by Bugsy, Thursday, 26 February 2015 2:39:09 PM
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NC,

I think that, if ISIS does not represent Islam BUT it does represent the 'faith' of many evil and reactionary people, then it is not only proper but imperative that all good-thinking people 'malign' ISIS and everything it stands for.

Don't you agree ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 26 February 2015 2:56:48 PM
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