Killarney,

I feel it's only fair to inform you that if you're going to engage with Jayb, then you will be well served to keep in mind that there's is almost no connection between the things he says and actuality.

Jayb likes to regale us with any and every fiction that his imagination can foster. It makes absolutely no difference how many times he's skewered in debate and how many fibs are exposed...he just marches blithely on enjoying the attention.

Just saying.....

<Once the current crop of good ol' boys have passed on to their male-dominated
<heaven, maybe the next crop will be more reasonable.....
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 23 January 2015 7:48:49 PM

<The author says that social definitions and norms, such as the idea that women are
<weak, are constructed by women with their needs in mind, and that praise is only given
<to a man when a woman's needs are met in some way."
Esther Villar

Basically, Suseonline will continue to be critical of any male on this site who dares to challenge what she writes and she will only praise those who agree with her.

An interesting little story indicating just how mixed up many ladies are about their boobs, & what they want to do with them.

I installed a large pontoon out the reef, moored about 30Ft of the drying Hardy reef. We could moor the large 300 passenger cat on one side of it, & the 60Ft coral viewing "sub" on the other. It had a swim platform at water level on the end nearest the reef, & a ladder down to it.

On one occasion I was standing lookout up in the wheelhouse, while the skipper had some lunch. I watched a couple of attractive 20s something young ladies wearing modest bikinis, climb down to the swim platform with a couple of friends not in swimming gear.

After putting on goggles & fins/flippers, they slipped into the water where they hung onto the platform while they took their tops off, handing them to their friends on the platform.

I think it is the ladies with some obsession about boobs. These wanted to snorkel topless with the fish on the Great Barrier Reef, but not walk around the pontoon topless. It could not have been a modesty thing, as there were many people snorkelling in that same area.

There must be some mystique for the ladies, about the things, which we men can not understand. I have even seen some hiking in the national park topless, where I would be wearing a good tough work type shirt, to protect from bramble scratches.

Mildly amusing.

So many men on this thread opining their expertise on all things boobies.

They're rather useful for nourishing babies (in my experience) - and they're obviously a feminine feature of distinction for both genders

"There must be some mystique for the ladies, about the things, which we men can not understand...."

Come off it, Hasbeen, fellas are just as fixated as women. I take it you've never tried to hold a conversation with someone of the opposite gender, where a sizable chunk of their conversation is directed at your chest?

Well, reading the posts one can understand why men come from Mars and women come from Venus!

Yes we are wired differently, and no amount of gripping is going to change that and the fact men find erotica sexually stimulating; whereas most but not all women need tactile sensations and stimulation of the erogenous zones to become sexually aroused/interested?

Women have controlled men for all time, given every man started life cradled in a women's arms, and completely dependent on her for his very life!

And then in the formative years, for many of his character traits!

The statistics (bureau of stats) show there are more women than men in both Australia and America.

That they usually outlive males by around 8 years, and therefore own more of the real estate and bank accounts than mere males.

It is also interesting to note that more and more young men are choosing to remain single, and avoid the tender trap, that is so called marriage, where they are asked to consign at least half their worldly goods and chattels to a (endlessly complaining) Venusian, they simply can't understand

And given the greater number of Venusians, they also outnumber mere Martians at the polls, and theoretically, should therefore control parliament and power!

The fact that they don't, evidence of a divided rabble, who have trouble agreeing on anything, let alone the most logical outcome.

Finally, if you don't like looking at women's udders, (pass the uder udder to my uder bruder) just don't buy the boring publications!

I certainly wouldn't cross the street to buy a women's mag, or read any of the tripe that seems to interest women, who wore what and was seen sleeping around with who?

Men don't want to be emasculated or controlled by women!

We've usually endured as much as we can stand of that garbage, by the time we reach puberty!

Go where you wanna go, do what you wanna do, be who you wanna be, read what you wanna read!
Rhrosty.

You do kid don't you Poirot.

I surfed as a young bloke. The number of the boobs hanging around Bondi & Cronulla beach were enough even back then to make most of us almost immune to the sight, [if not the touch I'll admit], for life.

Then remember I spent years out around the Pacific islands, New Guinea & the Solomons. Less than a couple of miles out of any of the few large towns every boob would be hanging out. A sarong type thing around the hips, or a grass skirt was what the women wore. You just stopped noticing.

A couple of times I encountered plantation owners wives, particularly on atolls, who had adopted local dress, & found this a bit of a shock. We are pretty heavily indoctrinated in these things. Boobs on the beach, fine, boobs in the lounge room, shocking.

In the same vein, the Rabaul yacht club had a number of picnic & snorkelling days on beautiful beaches on nearby islands. I don't recall ever seeing a boob on any of those days, although I'm sure a number of those ladies would have sunbaked topless on the Gold coast, or Bondi beach. Are small communities, where everyone knows everyone more inhibiting?

It would make an interesting study why some places are acceptable, & some not, to bare a boob.

In the same vein, my mother born 1911 was horrified at girls going topless. However when I recently went through some of her old photo albums, those knitted swimsuits she wore in the 20s & 30s were positively indecent. Much more revealing than going naked would have been. I guess it is what we are used to.