Killarny: No, JKJ's comment was neither excellent nor even worth taking the trouble to read. It should not have been given even the dignity of a reply - let alone grovelling praise.

Poirot: He "always" accuses his opponent du jour of being offensive and abusive - usually in an offensive and abusive way - and includes in any debate in which he's taking part a requisite reference to his opponent advocating violence (by linking it with the state)

Sort of proves what Marshner was on about, Ay.

Pro-family campaigner Connaught Marshner blames feminists for creating their own negative public image:

Feminism projected a new image of women: a drab, macho feminism of hard-faced women who were bound and determined to save their place in the world no matter whose bodies they have to climb over to do it. This image provided the plot line for such cultural weathervanes as Kramer vs. Kramer. Macho feminism despises anything which seeks to interfere with the desires of Number One. (The Selfish Feminist. Marshner 1982, 1, 3)

Killarney
You haven't established that there's anything "inferior" about a woman showing her body and breasts to a man or men because they like looking at her. All you're doing is re-assuming your premise - that there's something bad about ordinary heterosexual behaviour.

No question of privilege arises. Neither the woman in question, nor the man or men in question, are doing anything that answers the description of privilege. Women have exactly the same right in respect of men, and some exercise it, but generally they don't for the obvious reason that ... what?

For example CLEO famously had, and then discontinued its male centrefold. And the obvious reason is ... what?

Even if female interest was low to merely neutral, why not have it just for the sake of it, just for a lark, and just for why-not?

Because ... what?

To anyone not blinded by an ideology of hatred, it's obvious. What's the answer to the question?

Bragging? Sexual exploits Killarney?

As I understand it, sexual exploits usually involve coitus!

No reasonable person would say I described that!? Just that I was normal and sexually responsible, and not given to betraying trust!

As usual Killarney you've completely and quite deliberately missed the point, which is, if our usual roles were reversed, I'd be up before the beak; whereas, women who act in a similar manner, continue to walk away.

How many men still teach in our schools?
And you think it's women being victimized by men?

Look, we started out discussing Boobs until you introduced mills and boon pornography.

Thought I was conversing with a mature sophisticated woman, with a penchant for mills and boon pornography and male hunks?

I was wrong, given you seem to come across as both unreasonable and unnecessarily abrasive; and no sense of humor whatsoever!

Guess it's okay for you to be both unnecessarily rude, marginally offensive, and reinterpret both my words and their meaning, given you're a Venusian!

And if you think Venusian body language is a mystery for most Martians, you'd be right.

I've read where entirely unreasonable hairy legged feminists have put back the female cause by a hundred years, just by being nasty, vicious, control freaks, or par for the course Killarney, which is just how you come across.

Put another way, you'd catch more flies with a teaspoon of honey, than a whole jar of vinegar!

I mean, I don't recall needing your permission to (you didn't ask) relate part of my history, or the fact the we men know as much about women as one could write on the back of a postage stamp, using a crow bar for a pen.

As I said, there are more women than men now, yet they don't control government or power.

Imagine what a commercial boycott would achieve in our board rooms, if directed as affirmative action by those who do the majority of the shopping?

No, you and all your ilk are just to busy being antisocial shews!
Rhrosty.

Hey Rhosty, can you imagine a Parliament run by women. There's chaos no, imagine that. Be good TV though. Blood, Guts, Hair, Teeth, all they'd need is a big pool of spaghetti in the middle of the room. Whooa! Top ratings. ;-)

You can pick a sour feminist from miles away. Just look at the mouth for the "Bitter lines." A happy non-feminist has lines around the eyes, from smiling.

No Craig, JKJ's comment was nasty.
He ranted and raved and yelled about hate because others don't agree with his views. And I have already said that page 3 girly pics don't particularly bother me.
He is carrying on the good works of other haters like Runner and Constance.

Rhosty, no one wants to read about your supposed sexual exploits.
I think this thread has run its course for me.

See you all on another thread.
Suse.

I'm really sorry you see it that way Suse. I look forward to reading your comments in future discussions.