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Charlie Hebdo: freedom of speech, religion and co-existence : Comments
By Tristan Ewins, published 13/1/2015We need to avoid an escalation of rhetoric which would only polarise our society along religious and ethnic grounds. Here,freedom should ideally be balanced with honest self-criticism.
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Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 18 January 2015 12:43:12 PM
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Gawd you speak a lot of crap.
Posted by Craig Minns, Sunday, 18 January 2015 1:12:17 PM
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Another highly detailed and well reasoned argument from Craig Minns.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 18 January 2015 4:51:46 PM
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I work with the material available, LEGO.
Posted by Craig Minns, Sunday, 18 January 2015 5:15:21 PM
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Is Mise,
Plenty of AK47 v's watermelon videos on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ak47+watermelon http://youtu.be/nI3uVzdkL1I I told you guys this thing stunk, but you had to make fun of me. How about Rothschilds Purchased Charlie Hebdo in December... http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2015/01/24/zionist-hand-revealed-rothschild-family-had-purchased-charlie-hebdo-in-december-2014-video/ This forum is supposed to be for intelligent people but I see little difference to anywhere else. Bigots, Racists and such. I actually find that when it comes to the ways of the world most of you guys are so indoctrinated with the 'stuff like that doesn't happen' and your 'close-minded thinking' attitudes that you are mostly all actually far less intelligent than you think you are. One day you might find yourself thinking... We should've listened. But fine go ahead.. Your ignorance only creates a worse world for your children and grandchildren. Worst part is mine will have to pay for your ignorance and stupidity as well. Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 26 January 2015 2:59:31 PM
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I would love to co exist with Muslims in a state of "self respect and peaceful co existence". But unfortunately, the Islamic religion does not allow Muslims to do that. Muslims are obliged by the orders of their God and their Prophet to always be hostile to non Muslims and to spread Islam through violence. Tristan, I think that when the people from a hostile ideology point to their scriptural teachings as justification for killing you, I think that you should have the courtesy to take them seriously.
It is true that the Christian religion was once "warped" to justify violence against non Christians, but with Islam it is the other way around. Attacking infidels is not proscribed in the Islamic faith, it is prescribed as an act of religious piety and conformity to written Islamic teachings.
The reason why islam will remain impervious to change is because Mohammad commanded that the Islam of his lifetime was perfect and it could never change. To criticise or try to modernise Islam is blasphemy. And in Islam, Tristan, the penalty for blasphemy is death.
Your position appears to me, to be one of engagement with Islam with both sides indulging in tolerance and self respect. Everything I see about Islam seems to indicate that such a position would never be considered by Muslims because it is against their religion. Islam is a hostile ideology with dreams of world domination similar to International Socialism and National Socialism. These people are our self declared enemies and grovelling to them will never placate them, it will simply encourage them.
Pacifism is a loverly concept, but true pacifists like the Quakers or the Amish can only exist within tolerant societies, where their bizarre attitudes are protected by a the host community, who enforce the law with guns.