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It is Islam, not 'Islamism' : Comments
By Babette Francis, published 12/1/2015Politicians and some Church leaders have mouthed platitudes about Islam being a religion of peace and portraying those who murder in its name as betraying the ideals of Islam.
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Sorry VK, since when were the crusaders at fault for defending Europe from Islam. The History being told to us has been greatly distorted by Leftists. And the inquisitors for basically doing the same??
Posted by Constance, Monday, 12 January 2015 1:59:05 PM
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Correction - GROSSLY distorted our history.
Posted by Constance, Monday, 12 January 2015 2:42:12 PM
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Speaking of False Flag operations, some of the usual alternative media outlets are suggesting, and perhaps providing suggestive corroborating evidence, that the Paris Charlie killings were such an operation too. Including Paul Craig Roberts and Robert David Steele who runs this site:
http://www.phibetaiota.net Steele's CV is superb. His site provides perhaps the most extensive range of sources and links for understanding the human situation in the 21st century that I have ever come across. He is also a prolific reviewer of books for Amazon. Reading his extensive reviews on Amazon is an education in itself. He features books that are seldom if ever mentioned in the lame-stream "official" media here in the antipodes, certainly not in anything associated with the IPA or the Murdoch/Fox FAUX "news". Posted by Daffy Duck, Monday, 12 January 2015 2:45:57 PM
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The "moderate" Muslims like Rebecca Kay and Dr Jamal Rifi are now reporting death threats, assaults and intimidation from other Muslims in western Sydney.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-14/death-threats-against-muslim-leader-who-denounced-radicals/5670774 I've said before, it's too much to ask of Arab liberals that they stand up to Muslims, who wants to go into what's effectively a witness protection program with a Police security detail at your side 24/7? Racism and expectations of unquestioning loyalty to the clan or the ethnic group is by far the strongest factor controlling the Muslim diaspora, the threat of retribution from Muslim activists is trivial in comparison to the reality of having to live and work among violent gangsters and street hoodlums who see you as a traitor "Dog". These non religious Lebanese, Afghan and Somali thugs who spend most of their days drunk and stoned out of their gourds are also suddenly very religious when the opportunity arises to riot, attack Police, loot and smash some "White dogs". Jonj, Yeah keep telling yourself it's "all religions" if it alleviates your self loathing for a few minutes. http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/freedhearts/files/2013/09/gay-christians-35638751782.jpeg?w=286 People with low self esteem need to keep that little voice in their head chirping along with the fictions of "equality, liberty, and fraternity" but reality is still real outside the solipsistic bubble of the Liberal mind. http://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByPQiPrCAAEyXIw.png:large The Coming Annihilation of European Progressivism http://therightstuff.biz/2015/01/11/the-coming-annihilation-of-european-progressivism/#more-12749 Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 12 January 2015 3:49:43 PM
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As other posters have shown, there is plenty in the scriptures and history of Christianity that can be read as endorsement of appalling violence, including persecution and even killing of those deemed blasphemous. Modern Christians have learned not to take these literally. So have the great majority of Muslims.
There were far more French Muslims at the demonstrations in solidarity with victims of Islamist violence than have ever participated in that violence. It is a mark of fundamentalists and ideologues that they seek to exacerbate and provoke the very behaviour they also complain of. Babbette’s response is all the terrorists could hope for – demonising an entire religion for the actions of a few. We should not let the peddlers of hatred win, whatever their ideological/religious stripe. Posted by Rhian, Monday, 12 January 2015 3:52:36 PM
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The comparative argument doesn't cut it, Rhian. In the New Testament, which Christians follow, God does or threatens his own dirty work. Followers are not exhorted to it as they are in the Quran. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html
MSM now talks of the "corrupted" version of Islam adhered to by terrorists, so appeasing the sensitivities of moderates. However, the same Quran is followed by terrorists/IS and moderates, and supports violence by Muslims, nothing "corrupt" about it. Yes, there are nice bits in there too , but the naughty bits can't just be ignored. Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 12 January 2015 4:45:09 PM
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