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It is Islam, not 'Islamism' : Comments
By Babette Francis, published 12/1/2015Politicians and some Church leaders have mouthed platitudes about Islam being a religion of peace and portraying those who murder in its name as betraying the ideals of Islam.
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Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 2:57:21 PM
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Julian,
You didn't say which way the swastika was facing; could the wearer have been a Hindu? Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 5:20:18 PM
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Dear Constance,
Thank you for reposting your deleted post. There didn't seem to be anything too nasty in it or perhaps you have left some of it out. I'm not sure I am that much wiser about the position you are trying to put but perhaps if we take your points one by one clarity might avail itself. I'm afraid I can find little in the way of historical facts you say you have provided on this thread. If you mean on other threads then I'm afraid I do not have the time nor the inclination to go through your comment history and dissect your offerings as those I have looked at have either been hoaxes, untruths or just plain beatups. As I have said previously if there is one or two that you have more faith in their veracity then I undertake to peruse them and offer an opinion. You have made a comment about American Presidents talking about Muslims. The only recent example I could find was this one. It is George W Bush stating quite clearly that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. http://youtu.be/UGu0-kTi3Eg Cont.. Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 8:39:32 PM
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Cont..
You said you are not here to discuss Leonard Cohen but you were the one who raised him in this thread. I do find that a little disconcerting. I will tell you what I think, you had made up your mind about the meaning of his lyrics and when I asked you to reflect on them you realised your interpretation could not be supported. It happens to everyone but the sad thing is you are not prepared to discuss it instead you have deflected, hurled insults and run from the debate. Most would consider that childish. Then you run out the term 'Commie'. It really is such a strange thing to do in this discussion. The only interpretation is that you are probably an immigrant, most probably from the US, where that label is still bandied around. But the statement from you that raised my eyebrow was this; “Now tell me, you suddenly loathe Saudi Arabia, yet support Islam? Screwed thinking, hey.” I have been consistent in my loathing of fundamentalism in any form especially of the religious variety and Saudi Arabia has to be one of the most fundamentalist nations in a long list. Yet what is interesting, after my detailing of their many sins, that you have not said a word in support. This either reinforces the supposition you are an immigrant Yank, or it may well be you are a fundamentalist yourself, or indeed both. I support none of the religions, instead it is directed toward those trying to maintain Australia as a tolerant nation, accepting of those who wish to practice their faith within our laws. You my dear are a direct and very real threat to that ethic and would want to tear it done. That to me is 'screwed thinking' of the most dangerous kind. Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 8:39:56 PM
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He was no Hindu!
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 8:44:59 PM
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Joe,
Can’t you see that the devil is in the details? “Meanwhile, while we fluff around about trivia, surely it's ideology we should be concerned about?” Of course it is. And Islam, is the ideology – it is not a religion. Didn’t you see that post I sent on “How Islam works” Islam is 100% way of life. Wearing a hijab is purely a political statement. Religion is their guise in which they use it as a beard. Foxy then has the gall to suggest that Maureen in trying to defend her right has personally attacked the hijab wearing Muslima who then gets supported by the Dhimmi Managers. Her appeasement knows no end. Same thing I remember happened with an British Airways air hostess who wasn’t allowed to wear a cross necklace at work. Posted by Constance, Thursday, 29 January 2015 7:00:44 AM
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A few years ago I saw a piece of garbage striding along the street with a red T-shirt adorned by a white disc about 1ft 3in across and containing a large swastika. My hostile contempt for the symbol and the wearer was palpable. Would I ban it? No. Would I allow it to be worn in the public gallery of parliament? Definitely not.
The message of Moslem body bags is a standing insult to all men and all women. To men it says: “If I let you see me you would want to violate me”. To women it says “If you let men see you you’re asking for it”. I am as filled with hostile contempt for the symbol and its wearers as I am for swastikas. Would I ban it? No. Would I allow it to be worn in the public gallery of parliament? Definitely not.
How do others feel?
PS: I’m quite happy about body bags for jihadist warriors. Bring ‘em on.