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It is Islam, not 'Islamism' : Comments

By Babette Francis, published 12/1/2015

Politicians and some Church leaders have mouthed platitudes about Islam being a religion of peace and portraying those who murder in its name as betraying the ideals of Islam.

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Steelredux,

"Thank you for reposting your deleted post. There didn't seem to be anything too nasty in it or perhaps you have left some of it out."

Indeed, a couple of things were left out of the reprise.

""How to be Free" by Tom Hodgkinson. The so called Dark Middle Ages is a myth (propaganda) and was I believe much more humane than the world we are currently living in. For we are now slaves."

Tom rails mainly about being "slaves" to the capitalist consumerist paradigm...that's his point.

His other great book was "How to be Idle".

So it begs the question, apart from him championing medieval Catholic social history verses the starkness of Protestantism - why do you cite his work to dong Islam on the head?

He's complaining about a Western world melded from a combination of modern capitalism.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 29 January 2015 7:55:18 PM
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Poirot,

Yes, you do have a lot of trouble being unable to think of more than one thing at once. You don’t seem to have any concepts of the consequences of actions.

The consequences of the Reformation and industrialisation has brought us to our current dilemma we have with work/life balance and of course Islam. Ie because Christianity has been weakened due to all the diviseness. In other words, the West has become emasculated. And now we have Marxist Secularism which has now clashed with Islam which has been like a metamorphosis of creeping degression ever since the Reformation.

You must be enamoured with Islam. Tell me what you like about it?

You live in the WA countryside, don’t you? Rather secluded?

http://www.cbn.com/tv/embedplayer.aspx?bcid=1509282970001

You have no concerns of Socialist Sweden having the 2nd highest rape record in the world now since Muslim immigration. Sweden once had one of the lowest crime rates in the world. What is your opinion on this?
Posted by Constance, Sunday, 1 February 2015 8:30:16 AM
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Joe,

I probably reacted to your use of the word, trivia. Which it is not.

And yes, the sooner we do not consider Islam a religion, the better our understanding. It has to be a two way path of course and it is not happening. The nerve of the the Muslima just shows how much contempt they have for infidels. And to be supported by the management just makes me sick. That is oppression pure and simple.

Well it's obvious everywhere and I have been saying this for yonks that Muslims hold contempt for Christians and Jews, well actually any Non Muslim, including Hindus, Buddhists, Animists, Zoastrians etcetera. And it is even worse for Atheists - Charlie Hebdo for eg.

Yes, Islam is the most sinister of any fascist doctrine. Who the hell has ever taken on the world with such aggression?
Posted by Constance, Sunday, 1 February 2015 8:51:58 AM
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Enigma - Age Of Loneliness
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Enigma - Return To Innocence
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Posted by Constance, Sunday, 1 February 2015 8:54:10 AM
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Constance,

"You must be enamoured with Islam. Tell me what you like about it?"

Where have I ever said I was enamoured of Islam?

"You live in the WA countryside, don’t you? Rather secluded?"

Where have I ever indicated I live in a secluded setting?

You're surmising - surmising wrong.

"The consequences of the Reformation and industrialisation has brought us to our current dilemma we have with work/life balance and of course Islam. Ie because Christianity has been weakened due to all the diviseness. In other words, the West has become emasculated. And now we have Marxist Secularism which has now clashed with Islam which has been like a metamorphosis of creeping degression ever since the Reformation."

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Christianity has been weakened because of the Enlightenment and reason - and industrialisation/consumerism.

Tell me what Christ would have criticised about social democracy?

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/dec/17/what-is-living-and-what-is-dead-in-social-democrac/

"Americans would like things to be better. According to public opinion surveys in recent years, everyone would like their child to have improved life chances at birth. They would prefer it if their wife or daughter had the same odds of surviving maternity as women in other advanced countries. They would appreciate full medical coverage at lower cost, longer life expectancy, better public services, and less crime.

When told that these things are available in Austria, Scandinavia, or the Netherlands, but that they come with higher taxes and an “interventionary” state, many of those same Americans respond: “But that is socialism! We do not want the state interfering in our affairs. And above all, we do not wish to pay more taxes.”

(Good article/lecture)
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 1 February 2015 11:58:58 PM
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Poirot,

Then why do you persistently defend something you are not enamoured with?

Tell me, what you know about Islam?

You live in the country, don’t you?

The USA is ultimately a Protestant capitalistic country. And yes, they are probably paranoid about Socialism as it is virtually the opposite of Capitalism.

It is all about the EXTREMES.

Look at Sweden – it has taken Socialism to the extreme and now has huge problems. France and Spain I believe are heading in the same direction because of their Socialist govts.

PC madness with its cultural relativism is occurring in Sweden. From having one of the lowest crime rates in the world, it now has the 2nd highest rate of rape records in the world, and the highest in Europe which has brought about by Muslim immigration. Islam is clashing with radical Secularism.

On another note, our past Prime Minister Ben Chifley (a devout Catholic) wanted to nationalise the banks and ended up being voted out because of it as it smelled of Socialism. Otherwise, he was Australia’s favourite PM. Even Bob Menzies cried at his funeral. I think nationalising the banks would have been a great idea. Chifley truly was a man of the people.

One extreme always creates another, that’s why there has to be a balance.
Posted by Constance, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 12:48:01 PM
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