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It is Islam, not 'Islamism' : Comments
By Babette Francis, published 12/1/2015Politicians and some Church leaders have mouthed platitudes about Islam being a religion of peace and portraying those who murder in its name as betraying the ideals of Islam.
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Posted by Craig Minns, Monday, 19 January 2015 7:58:20 AM
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Dear Constance,
I've just read your advice to me to - "expand" my mind. I'll certainly continue to try to do that. It's part of my occupational ethos. Librarians are not in the business of censorship. Their responsibility is not to deny, but to add, enrich, stimulate and amplify the reading of their patrons. So your suggestion will be taken seriously. And talking about reading ... you also need to realise that the world is a book and it would also help you if you were to read more than just one page. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 19 January 2015 10:01:38 AM
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Dear Foxy,
Constance was not very forthcoming about where she got her spiel from but a quick bit of research finds although it has made its way through various hate sites like Daniel Pipes it originated from a book by “Dr” Peter Hammond titled Slavery, Terrorism & Islam written in 2005. The irony is this man is intent on exporting his own brand of religious extremeism; “The fundamentalist assault on equality, tolerance and Constitutional protection of human rights in South Africa comes mainly from evangelical churches based in this country, but which often have close ties to local and foreign church groups or societies which share a common intolerant fundamentalist view on matters such as abortion, gay rights and theocracy.” “Prime examples of such hate groups in South Africa are Christian Action Network, which is based in Cape Town and whose figurehead, "Dr" Peter Hammond, is involved with radical US religious right groups such as the ICCP (International Church Council Project), which consists of a main committee, and smaller committees which include foreign leaders of churches from around the world. The ICCP is tied into the US Religious Right through its leaders.” “Closer examination of this group's website shows that it has "targeted" 80 countries around the world to "transform" into evangelical Christian theonomies. Noting that Uganda is on its list and the state of the country - and those around it which are also on the list, I think they are achieving their goals.” http://www.secularism.org.uk/christian-homophobes-are-spreadi.html Unfortunately the type of propaganda Hammond is distributing finds fertile grounds for people like Constance. The worrying thing is that she is a typical of lone wolf, probably with no real connection to these hate groups, but doing their dirty work by her own volition. This can make it hard to combat. Fortunately when it does hit mainstream pressure can be brought to bear. Foxy News has recently had to retract some statements made which were very similar to the line Constance is running. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-formally-apologizes-for-claiming-muslims-have-taken-over-european-cities/ I suppose it is up to us to do our bit in our little corner of the woods. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 19 January 2015 11:17:28 AM
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@Steelie
The real eye-opener here is that Steelie and the Islamists speak exactly the same newspeak --any site that exposes the unsavory side of Islam is a <<hate site>> Have squizzy at the old Islamic evangelist, NC, on that other thread. He has exactly the same mindset/vocab as Steelie...peas from the same pod! Posted by SPQR, Monday, 19 January 2015 11:25:19 AM
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....Cont
France – the Third Republic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89mile_Combes (persecution of Catholic clergy) “He took the promotion process out of the hands of senior officers and handled it directly as a political matter. He used Freemasons to spy on the religious behaviour of all 19,000 officers; they flagged the observant Catholics and André made sure they would not be promoted. Exposed as the Affaire Des Fiches, the scandal undermined support for the Combes government. It also undermined morale in the army, as officers realized that hostile spies examining their private lives were more important to their careers than their own professional accomplishments.” Collusion with Freemasons again! power-and-the-glory, Graham Greene: “The priest, then, is a fully drawn character; but he is also a spokesman for Greene's view of the continuity of the Catholic Church. As a sensitive and thoughtful person, the protagonist is scarcely expendable; yet he is only a small part of a large spiritual organization — the Roman Catholic Church. In his debate with the lieutenant, the priest states that the totalitarian state is based upon personalities. When its leaders die, he says, the government will probably fall, consumed by corruption. The Church, he argues, does not depend on any one person, and the appearance of the new priest at the end of the novel manifests Greene's thesis.” Posted by Constance, Monday, 19 January 2015 11:29:42 AM
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To the bad detective not living up to his name: Maybe it was divine intervention? What do you know, baby? Ain’t Divineness sweet?
And by the way, just because you spend your whole life on OLO, doesn’t mean the rest of us have to. You’re always slamming and STALKING me for not really being part of the sappy Poirot club as I’m not a regular visitor therefore Judge P deems my opinions null and void. Can you show me the membership rules where Graham says we have to be full-time members, El Fuhrer? You have true ELITIST form all over which is typical of the Politburo. With the usual shades of authoritarianism and totalitarianism. When are you going to stop behaving like a spoilt school girl? Posted by Constance, Monday, 19 January 2015 11:41:23 AM
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