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It is Islam, not 'Islamism' : Comments
By Babette Francis, published 12/1/2015Politicians and some Church leaders have mouthed platitudes about Islam being a religion of peace and portraying those who murder in its name as betraying the ideals of Islam.
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Posted by Constance, Sunday, 18 January 2015 11:25:50 AM
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And that is why expulsions took place. There is so much propaganda against the Catholic Church. And there is likely to have been Commie infiltration of the Church. See Bella Dodd. The anonymous author of my last 3 posts stated at the end: “In my opinion, Muslims should be expelled from all Western countries and isolated. It's the only way we can avoid the impending violence and possible war closing in.” Really, what else can we do? Joe, I don’t think any reformation can take place in Islam as it would have to be completely gutted. Islam is an ideology, not a religion as it completely controls lives. Arabs had a very harsh and tribal existence in the desert and Mohammad created a monster. What has Islam created? Do they climb mountains just because it’s there? Why do they not like animals or music? And why were we unable to have a reasonable discussion with McAdam and co? One man ideologies are always creators of chaos. Marx, Niechzsche (meaninglessness), Rousseau, even Fraud who dominated for far too long like a juggernaut and as a consequence other possible advances in medical science got neglected, like Autism for eg. which is still remains a mystery and unsolved. And you know the rest of the big men with their weird and dangerous ideas..... And while I’m here, nuns were the first real feminists and they have always had autonomy within the Church. The Church depends on people, not one person. And the saints have always been the ordinary heroes. Joan of Arc defending her town and country. St Francis who challenged materialism and was ultimately accepted by the Church. New benevolent ideas are always possible within the Church. Always evolving. But ones like Luther and Henry VIII created chaos in Christianity thus weakening it. And how much bloodshed did they cause? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc. And still the anti Catholic propaganda persists from all directions. Islam or Mohammed has taken the idea of martydom and bastardised it for evil intentions. And now we have radical Secularism which is feeding Islam. Cont... Posted by Constance, Sunday, 18 January 2015 11:35:24 AM
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"I didn’t create these stats – it was sent to me out of the blue. How can you deny them?"
I presume you then went quickly to work to validate their authenticity - yes? Or does merely reposting them here make them accurate in a sort of "How can you deny them" way? Being as you're constantly berating some of us for our lack of research. Whodathunk that all you had to do was wait for someone of like ideology to send you something - out of the blue! Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 18 January 2015 11:35:26 AM
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Port, kettle, Poirot :)
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 18 January 2015 11:54:25 AM
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I don't post things on OLO which people send me out of the blue.
In fact, my email is free of people sending me ideological spiels. Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 18 January 2015 12:01:44 PM
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Graham Greene’s “The Power and the Glory” is about the persecution of the clergy during the Mexican Revolution. Greene is considered one of the greatest writers of the 20th Century both as a writer of novels and as a journalist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutarco_El%C3%ADas_Calles#Violent_Church-State_Conflict “Calles was a staunch anticlerical and during his term as president, he moved to enforce the anticlerical articles of the Constitution of 1917, which led to a violent and lengthy conflict known as the Cristero Rebellion or the Cristero War,(1926-29). In May 1926, Calles was awarded a medal of merit from the head of Mexico's Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in recognition of his actions against the Catholic Church. About 90,000 people on both sides died in the war. A truce was negotiated with the assistance of U.S. Ambassador Dwight Morrow in which the Cristeros agreed to lay down their arms. Calles, however, did not abide by the terms of the truce; he had approximately five hundred Cristero leaders and 5,000 other Cristeros shot, frequently in their homes in front of their wives and children. Particularly offensive to Catholics after the truce was Calles's insistence on a complete state monopoly on education, suppressing all Catholic education and introducing "socialist" education in its place, saying: "We must enter and take possession of the mind of childhood, the mind of youth." The persecution continued as Calles maintained control under his Maximato and did not relent until 1940, when President Manuel Ávila Camacho, a practicing Catholic, took office.” There we go again, the State taking possession of children’s mind and taking them away from their families. And there you have the FREEMASONS in on the act. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_%C3%81vila_Camacho (Mexican president ) Ávila Camacho was a professed Catholic, saying "I am a believer". “Domestically, Ávila protected the working class, creating the Mexican Social Security Institute or IMSS in 1943. He worked to reduce illiteracy. He continued land reform and declared a rent freeze to benefit low-income citizens. Etc.” Cont.... Posted by Constance, Monday, 19 January 2015 6:58:22 AM
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You must not consider Islam as a religion. It is an ideology created by one psychopathic man. The Church would have been fighting this devil in centuries past, and you must take into account that they never had our modern communications where we are able to communicate with the world and so were kept in the dark about the true intentions of Islam. But I’m sure some people knew but were restricted with limited communications. Religion is meant to be benign and loving and it does not control, as it gives you freedom instead. Missionaries spread the “Good News”. Islam is the opposite.
That German link site I have recently posted (on Black and White Flag article) analysed the Koran and came to the conclusion that about 60% of it was anti infidel. And people don’t think their against us?
http://europenews.dk/en/node/88457
ISLAMIC-WAY-OR-NO-WAY
And that is why the Inquisitions took place where they were forced to question the true motives of the minorities and the false Conversos that were undermining the Church and real democracy. Protestants apparently even sided with Islam. Remember, the Puritans wanted to get rid of any images (like Islam) of Christ and all the Art and Beauty that came with it and ensued. Creativity is so important in the CC. There was apparently only about 1% of torture that actually took place and when it did, it was not supported by the Church but by the Monarchy/State as it was deemed too harsh, afterall, the Church is about saving souls, redemption and forgiveness. Good shepherds. Grace. Its not perfect, what is? And it is very egalitarian.
The Holy inquisitions were a paradigm for our current modern Western judicial systems and INQUESTS.
http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-holy-inquisition.html#more
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2011/the-truth-about-the-spanish-inquisition
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