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It is Islam, not 'Islamism' : Comments

By Babette Francis, published 12/1/2015

Politicians and some Church leaders have mouthed platitudes about Islam being a religion of peace and portraying those who murder in its name as betraying the ideals of Islam.

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Foxy, isn't it funny that some people are so happy being miserable that they won't give it up for even a moment?

And isn't it sad that the ones who seem most afflicted by that addiction are the ones who have least to be miserable about?

I wonder why that is. Any ideas?
Posted by Craig Minns, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 2:44:44 PM
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A suggested speech an Australian political representative should give to the Australian people via parliament about immigrants and any tensions with minorities in Australia regardless of ‘political correctness’ and the expected vocal ‘shock and horror’ by some in the media and other ‘trendies’:

"In Australia, live like Australians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Australia, to work and eat in Australia, should speak English fluently after five years in Australia, and respect all Australian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslims then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law.

Australia does not need Muslim minorities or refugees. They desire to come to Australia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’. We will not tolerate disrespect of our Australian culture. We must learn from the ‘cultural suicides’ of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. Muslims are taking over those countries and they must not be allowed to take over Australia. Australian customs and traditions are not compatible with many of the values of Sharia Law including male treatment of females as ‘possessions’, female circumcision, forced marriages and wearing Islamic dress if they do not wish to in public without fear of reprisals.

When this honourable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the Australian national interest first, observing that vocal, strident Muslim or any other minorities do not reflect the overwhelming majority of Australian families raised under laws based on Judeo-Christian ethics.

I acknowledge thankfully that the original Vladimir Putin’s speech to the Russian Parliament [Duma] on August 04, 2013 was posted by Constance, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 2:32:30pm. Australian politicians please note that politicians in the Duma gave Putin a five minute standing ovation. One assumes that they ‘reflected the views of the majority of Russians’ who elected them as their representatives in Parliament.
Posted by Citizens Initiated Action, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 4:47:41 PM
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O lord please save me from the naïve, the gullible, and the downright stupid.

My dear Constance and CIA,

Putin never made this speech and if either of you had bothered to take 60 seconds out of what must be incredibly busy lives to check these things before you post them or respond to them you may save an egg or two.

“There is no evidence that President Putin gave any such speech, however. The Speeches and Transcripts section of the official Russian presidential web site records no Putin speech of that nature on 4 February 2013 (or any other date up to April 2013, when this item first appeared), nor does a record or mention of anything like this speech appear elsewhere on that site or in any news accounts (Russian or foreign) published since then.”

“Moreover, this item is highly reminiscent (and appears to be a variant form of) an opinion piece originally written by an U.S. Air Force veteran shortly after the 9/11 attacks in 2001, versions of which have falsely been attributed to various world leaders (primarily the prime ministers of Australia and the UK) in the intervening years.”

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/putinduma.asp

“There is no record of Putin making such a speech. Nor are there any credible news reports about the Russian President's supposed words. The message is strongly reminiscent of a factually flawed email forward that claimed that the Australian Prime Minister stated that immigrants should adapt to Australian culture, language and beliefs or leave the country and that Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law should get out of Australia.”

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/putin-duma-speech-sharia-law.shtml

A little more attention to the veracity of items you post in the future would be appreciated.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 5:32:29 PM
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Lol!...SteeleRedux...for that I give you a five minute standing ovation.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 5:39:15 PM
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Dear Constance,

You were the one who made the comment to me
about liking fairy-tales. I merely responded to it.
You digressed and -
you should not have digressed if you didn't want
a response.

Dear Craig,

I agree, some people are hard to fathom.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 6:47:55 PM
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cont'd ...

Dear Craig,

As to why?

Well just a guess - but some people tend to think
in terms of general categories, if only to enable
them to make sense of the world by simplifying
its complexity
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 7:00:00 PM
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