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The moral descent of Australia's policy on asylum seekers : Comments
By Isobel Blackthorn, published 27/11/2014In the place of compassion, empathy and understanding, qualities that make us truly human, the basest of all emotions have anchored themselves in the collective heart.
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Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 28 November 2014 1:21:10 PM
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@ o sung wu. Thank you for your civil response. It is a great deal better than many of the immediately preceding posts that are nothing less than personal attacks upon me, most by people who hide behind anonymity. They consistently fail to address the issues. Their insults are not only frequently contradictory, but attribute characteristics to me that I would fairly claim are not made by people who actually know me.
I try and confine my comments on this forum to subjects about which I would claim some knowledge. Alas, that is not a characteristic of many who so write. As any fair analysis of umpteen posts made by a relatively small number of people show, there is a consistency about them in which the dominant characteristics are ignorance, bigotry, an absence of even elementary evidence based argument, and a delight in making ridiculous demands and/or insults upon those who have the temerity to disagree with their world view. I shall endeavour to make comments that add to the debate. If that appears as condescending or any of the other character flaws attributed to me, then that is more the fault of reader than it is of me. Posted by James O'Neill, Friday, 28 November 2014 1:21:16 PM
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James,
Wah,wah,wah, all mouth and no trousers, there's not a shred of substance in that post it's just a spoilt white boy dummy spit. Normal folk understand that you have to treat people differently based on their ethnic background and because of that we take people of other races as we find them, hell it's not like we have any choice, we don't just project an upper class Anglo Saxon sensibility onto everything they say or do. It's a grotesque form of, can I say anthropomorphism? While I don't spend a lot of time with people of other races I spend a great deal of time around upper middle class, White inner city dwellers and the way they speak about Somalis or Afghans is the same way they might speak of Dolphins or a dog they're particularly attached to. Isobel is projecting her White, privileged mindset onto people who are not very intelligent and whose genes shape a way of thinking and relating to the world is completely different to her own and you're defending her. Here's a pretty fantastic video illustrating my point, Ferguson is turning into a goldmine of quotes and footage of White liberals and others being mugged by reality, the "peaceful protestor" in the mask is berating a liberal reporter who is himself black but is perceived as an "Uncle Tom". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-B1acMvCjQ&app=desktop Great huh? See he'll support his own people unconditionally even when they're in the wrong and he doesn't even seem to understand liberal ideals much less live by them. In Europe the Islamists are already turning on the Lefties and do gooders and it'll happen here too once they have the numbers and enough White converts in their ranks: http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=109317&s=9a377544ce1605a39eb26abf3931bc8b&p=1377282&viewfull=1#post1377282 Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 28 November 2014 2:17:24 PM
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Hi there JAMES...
Oh it's no bother at all my friend, we're all on The Forum to extract, to a greater or lesser degree, an audience of some kind in order that we may ventilate our thoughts and opinions on various issues that directly or indirectly impact upon our lives. For me personally, it's all a bit of fun James, an opportunity to tease out many of the more complex factors that our government believe may work favourably, in the public interest ? That's it really, nothing remotely sinister or portentous. Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 28 November 2014 9:16:22 PM
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I do like how everyone congratulates liberal for stopping the boats but have you thought about how they are doing it ? Defense is paying for it and they are not happy, Our Navy is being used as a coast guard operation.A lot war machinery picking up boats highly trained personnel picking up boats.... I wonder how long this arrangement will last before the crap hits the fan and real cost comes out.
Another slide of hand from our PM Posted by Aussieboy, Saturday, 29 November 2014 3:39:33 AM
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To James O'Neill.
The point of Isobel Blackthorne's article, is that Australians are breaking a treaty and do not agree with her position on "refugees", because we are greedy, selfish, immoral and reprehensible people. And you agree with her. Both of you are therefore indulging in a very personnel attack upon your opponents. But when one of your opponents turns the table on you, and examines whether your own opinions are altruism or self interest, you stand on your dignity and wail that you are being attacked personally. I must have hit a nerve if you resort to ignoring my post, and then justify that decision by citing what is clearly a double standard. The key to changing any person's mind, is to get inside their heads and force them to examine how they came to think that their opinions are correct. My premise,is, that people of your Brahmin caste have not objectively thought out the issues involved. You and your peers simply parrot a moralising groupthink who's group position is more concerned with enhancing their collective self esteem, than any real concern about morality. Your moral position is a sham. This is a common position for traitors to take. There appears to be two main kinds of traitors, the common criminal whom sells out his people for profit, and the ones who sell out their people for an ideology which supports their self esteem. Famous self esteem traitors like Philby, Burgess, McLean and Sir Anthony Blunt (the British left wing bureaucracy award knighthoods to their known traitors) were all upper class twits who spied for the KGG, for what they considered to be the very noblest of reasons. Like you, they were convinced of their own intellectual and moral superiority, and they wanted to Save The World. To do that, they accepted the socialist ideology as being intrinsically correct and they ignored any inconvenient facts that contradicted that opinion. They then indulged in treason against their own people with a clear conscience. I respectfully submit, Mr O'Neill, that you are doing exactly the same thing for the same reason Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 29 November 2014 3:53:33 AM
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I've just re-read your latest 'thread', and much of what you say is without doubt; unerringly correct ! You have managed to capture a widely held belief of most of the adult population, precisely ! Yet there are still those, noisy minority 'swarms', who seem to be always heard by some of our more politically correct leaders ? I wonder why ? Bravo 'LEGO' Bravo !