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The moral descent of Australia's policy on asylum seekers : Comments

By Isobel Blackthorn, published 27/11/2014

In the place of compassion, empathy and understanding, qualities that make us truly human, the basest of all emotions have anchored themselves in the collective heart.

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JON: We wage illegal wars on behalf of our "great and powerful friend". War crimes are committed. Yet the word "accountability" seems to have disappeared from the lexicon.

Hmm. Lets see these people are being persecuted by a Religious Government. We go to help those people & they leave anyway. We change the Government then the others leave. In other places they say they are fleeing persecution, but it's not form the Government. It's from the Taliban, but not their Government. So what makes them refugees.

You say "We" caused the problem, yet this is where they come to. Isn't that strange, aren't "We" "the enemy."

JON: The current misreporting over Ukraine followed the sustained misinformation campaigns that date back, at least in my memory, to the Vietnam War years.

So are you saying it's the Ukrainians fault not the Rebels & their Russian allies. Going against the grain again are we James.

JON: Not the least of the appalling results of government policies and media cheerleading is that a majority of Australians think the refugee policy is a "good thing".

James, you have got that back to front. It's the people that are influencing the Government here.

JON: Ultimately it is the end of democratic society governed by the rule of law.

Are you upset because your lucrative Lawyer type scam is drying up James.
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Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 27 November 2014 2:19:27 PM
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PhilipS: The Convention is over 50 years old and does not take the current climate of world events into consideration as is demonstrated by the country shopping refugees.

I agree. The Convention was designed for a Eurocentric refugee problem of Christian & Jewish people. not a Middle Eastern problem with Islamic people hell bent on destroying Western Civilization slowly at first.

Bulla: All the land illegally occupied by perpetrators like this land MUST be put in control of UNO for administration

You think you have problems now. The UN take over. I'd like to see that. Maybe all people that aren't aboriginal should leave Australia remove ALL Western influences & return it to the bus it once was. You, of course realize that means NO western things like rifles, fishing lines, tinnies, cars, houses, ciggies & phalgons, etc, & no clothes, especially no clothes. None of these things were here before the arrival of the European. Australia, to be left in its "original state."
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 27 November 2014 2:20:08 PM
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' You, of course realize that means NO western things like rifles, fishing lines, tinnies, cars, houses, ciggies & phalgons, etc, & no clothes, especially no clothes. None of these things were here before the arrival of the European. Australia, to be left in its "original state."'

you forgot welfare and medical services Jayb.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 27 November 2014 2:44:24 PM
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" almost all of Australia's humanitarian intake (a tiny 13,750)"

13.75k is not a tiny intake for a country of 25 million. It's 1 in 2000 - *each year*. And each of those 1 in 2000 will turn right around and say "Oh, BTW, I have family - can they come too?" as soon as they have permanent residency. By law, they can.
Posted by PaulMurrayCbr, Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:09:01 PM
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I don't know Ms.BLACHTHORN, after reading your article where you denounce the way Australia is dealing with these alleged asylum seekers, I really wonder what sort of country we'll become if you and your lunatic brethren achieve your objectives ?

Generation after generation of hardworking Aussies, amongst them the tens of thousands of decent, hard-working 'legitimate' migrants, who've also worked their back's off, to create this great nation of ours, all of whom have unfailingly, 'Value Added' to the country, not only with their hard work, but their food, and culture, and with their fantastic music, amongst other things ?

Yet you and your kind wish to irrevocably destroy all of their collective efforts, by allowing these highly suspect, economic refugees, into our country to pursue a life of largesse, munificence and free accommodation, possibly for life, a case of permanent succour, all at the taxpayers expense ! It's plainly CRIMINAL Ms BLACKTHORN, as are YOU and your cohorts, if you continue to support such a unethical measure.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:42:58 PM
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JKJ You raise the same tired idiocies every time this topic comes up. If you want a legal opinion you can pay the going rate. Alternatively you can ask Graeme to actually publish a factual article on the topic; or you can do your own research. You might like to start with Hathaway & Foster The Law of Refugee Status 2nd ed 2014.

JayB I specialise in international human rights law, not refugee law. Given the behaviour of successive Australian governments and their like minded friends that well is unlikely to ever dry up. I hope you never need a lawyer to combat your detention without trial; your control orders; your child born in Brisbane being defined as an "illegal maritime entrant" or any of the other myriad assaults upon traditional notions of justice carried in Parliament on the votes of both Labor and Coalition politicians. Then you would be in the uncomfortable position of explaining to your lawyer that he/she is really part of a scam and their services are not required.

Just look for example at the current Bill before the House on refugees. It seeks to bypass the courts and give untrammelled power to the Minister. If you had half a notion of what the rule of law means that should give even you pause to think. Alas, on the evidence of your posts that is a step too far.
Posted by James O'Neill, Thursday, 27 November 2014 4:15:00 PM
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