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Ends don't justify means : Comments

By Toby O'Brien, published 24/10/2014

Taxpayers are being rorted by the Government's policy of offshore detention.

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This author is delusional! The numbers have now stopped and we have a mechanism to prevent them increasing again until the Labour idiots get back in. Then the labour lawyers and social workers will be back making the really big quid again.
Australia is doing it's bit in taking in refugees although I think our choice needs to be reduced. That is code for saying no more muslims of course. To bring in people who have not only nothing in common with us but are diametrically opposed to all we hold dear is plain stupid.
Toby should check out Europe. The refugees land in Italy but will move to where there is the best pay off i.e. Holland, UK and Germany. Europe could certainly learn from our foresight.
Posted by JBowyer, Friday, 24 October 2014 7:41:03 AM
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Toby is of course quite correct in highlighting the enormous expense involved in keeping out the illegal aliens. When you consider that machine gun bullets only cost 10 cents each, and a few bursts on a boat or two would stop the whole show dead, it is obvious that the government should look to cheaper ways to implement its excellent policy of preventing the illegals from entering the country.
Posted by plerdsus, Friday, 24 October 2014 8:03:43 AM
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I suppose the $10bn spent by Labor in 4 years (nearly 3x as much) shows that not only is the coalition policy saving lives, but costing the taxpayer a whole bundle less.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 24 October 2014 8:23:47 AM
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plerdsus: Toby is of course quite correct in highlighting the enormous expense involved in keeping out the illegal aliens.

SM: I suppose the $10bn spent by Labor in 4 years (nearly 3x as much) shows that not only is the coalition policy saving lives, but costing the taxpayer a whole bundle less.

Why is Australia involved in the Detention/Refugee Camp Business. It's not our responsibility. It is the responsibility of the UNCHR to provide for Refugees. The UNCHR should provide the Accommodation, Food, Medical & anything else to the UNCHR standards. Nothing to do with Australia until they have been granted a Visa.

JBowyer: To bring in people who have not only nothing in common with us but are diametrically opposed to all we hold dear is plain stupid. Europe could certainly learn from our foresight.

Well said. I agree.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 24 October 2014 9:00:55 AM
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"Stopping the boats is irrelevant!" If we are discussing the costs of processing asylum seekers then that has to be the most inane comment of all time.
Reducing the number of asylum seekers is the easiest and most effective way of reducing costs.
As for the security issues of having unprocessed applicants in the community, well just ask the British how that has worked out. They seemed to have lost hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers who have disappeared into the general community, probably never to be found.
And the "inhumane" conditions in processing camps offshore would be Utopia to those millions of refugees stranded in tent cities in the African deserts. Not to mention the conditions some Australian Aboriginals have to endure in remote areas.
We are currently experiencing the most efficient border controls we have had in many years. Naturally there are those who wish to destroy that.
Posted by Big Nana, Friday, 24 October 2014 9:02:33 AM
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Toby,
I suggest you carefully read the Koran.
It is the basis of a society with a basic building block of an alpha male dominated grouping-- similar to what is found in herds of kangaroos, cattle, wild goats, sheep, prides of lions etc.
It establishes a culture which cannot, and never, for long, has, existed, in peace,side by side with a society based on the nuclear family established by institutionalised monogamy.
An alpha male based society ( 4 wives and numerous non- muslim concubines (if finances extend that far) automatically involves numerous disadvantaged males without access to the civilising effect of women as equals or women at all other than through violence or up there in heaven, if you are silly enough to believe that life after death nonsense.

We are entitled to preserve our society against a belief system inconsistent with the progress of the human race.

Can you name on invention or innovation , from steam engine through
rockets to Mars, the internet, and computers which has been produced other than by a person brought to the maximum of their potential under the nuclear family culture ( not religion) inherent in the Judeo- Christian tradition ?
Posted by Old Man, Friday, 24 October 2014 9:16:23 AM
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