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Alberici and the apologist: Islam on Lateline : Comments

By John Perkins, published 17/10/2014

Of course Doureihi would not condemn Islamic State because that is what Hizb ut-Tahrir wants. A caliphate is their objective.

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Yuyutsu,
Well if your information is correct then 52% of Muslims are not really Muslim, as the Koran says Allah has sealed their minds to the truth

2.26 Indeed, Allah is not timid to present an example - that of a mosquito or what is smaller than it. And those who have believed know that it is the truth from their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, they say, "What did Allah intend by this as an example?" He misleads many thereby and guides many thereby. And He misleads not except the defiantly disobedient,
2.27
Who break the covenant of Allah after contracting it and sever that which Allah has ordered to be joined and cause corruption on earth. It is those who are the losers.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 17 October 2014 4:11:31 PM
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'I doubt the Koran could beat that death toll?'

no Susie just Mao, Stalin and other secularist. And don't forget the abortionist who specialise in baby killing. I suggest you think before displaying your Chritophobic nature.
Posted by runner, Friday, 17 October 2014 4:58:16 PM
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Thank you John, for a most incisive article.

I can't believe that ISIS and Hizb-ut-Tahrir represent Islam, that the butchery of thousands, perhaps millions eventually, of people like me, kafirs, un-believers, people who don't believe even in a Heaven or an afterlife, let alone some bloke called Allah or even some other bloke called Muhammad,is on the agenda of most Muslims.

I'm sure that most Muslims have flicked trough the Koran and noticed the passages where "I" obviously refers to Muhammad himself, and therefore that the Koran can't have been the literal, and totally unchangeable, word of Allah, passed down unchanged to Muhammad.

And surely most Muslims in Australia laugh at some clown who goes on about mannequins, or some other clown who talks about women as 'uncovered meat'.

I have advice for the 'mannequin' bloke - save yourself the trouble of blowing yourself up to gain access to your 72 virgins, I know a shop .......

Seriously, if men have problems controlling themselves, then THEY should take steps to control themselves, don't put it all on women. If you have the problem, you do something about it. Camomile tea helps.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 17 October 2014 5:08:53 PM
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Yuyutsu

do the majority of Muslims hate the Jews? You make some very good points and I think generally most people of all faith (including the secular faith) want to live peacefully. Unfortunately most Muslims were born into it rather than choosing that path. That means the whole of their lively hood/ family acceptance etc is at stake and often lives if choosing to leave. I have met a number of lovely muslim people but not ones who adhere to the teachings of the Koran's later writings or those who folow the example of Mohammed.
Posted by runner, Friday, 17 October 2014 5:29:50 PM
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Contra Suseonline’s comment, Islam doesn’t just have “some” followers who “take their religious book too seriously”, it has NO followers who take their “prophet’s” books less than in toto. Those that don’t fully accept its call (really don’t – not merely exercise taqiyya to fool the punters) are not followers. Brushing aside the tactical sugar coating, Mohammed’s seventh century Mein Kampf makes quite clear that faithful adherence to the central message of conquest and subjugation is a defining requirement of a Moslem. Islamic State is an Islamic call to arms made crystal clear as John Perkins and countless other authors have amply demonstrated. That’s why Moslems physically able to fight are flocking in their tens of thousands to join its murder rampage, contemptuously spitting in the faces of the nations that have foolishly given them refuge.

The Moslem jihad can be blunted by air power and by draconic harassment in their enclaves in the West, but will not be decisively defeated while they can skulk among decent human beings. Only a rededication to the secular values of the Age of Reason and human liberty, and a relentless crusade against the theocracy of Islam (or any other for that matter), can make this cult history. A start in Australia would be insistence that a condition of living here is to pledge to promote the right of every citizen to adopt, reject, abandon, follow, peddle, praise, deride, obey, ignore, defy at will any religious authority or symbol or ruling. Penalty for restricting that right: expulsion and permanent exile.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Friday, 17 October 2014 6:04:39 PM
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This essay provides a capsule summary of the essentially ungovernable nature of todays human created world, and the unique combination of factors that allowed the up-until-now relatively successful European democracies to flourish or prosper.

And why world-wide terrorism is the new normal, which nobody has a clue as to how to stop (the inexorable pattern-patterning)

http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/116/pankaj-mishra.html

To my mind, of all the magazines available at your local newsagent, or at least some of them, Adbusters gives the most accurate (unfortunately bleak) in your face assessment of the state of the world, and where we are very rapidly heading - while, borrowing from Neil Postman Amusing Ourselves To Death with titty-tainment
Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 17 October 2014 6:19:41 PM
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