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Sydney's Apocalypse now: fear and loathing in Bondi jungle : Comments

By Peter West, published 24/9/2014

More people, more traffic, more demand for housing, more space needed in schools and hospitals. Growth is outstripping the work of planners and policy makers.

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Too many people.
When will it stop?
Posted by ateday, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 9:08:37 AM
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Too many people.
Will it stop nicely?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 9:19:11 AM
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I don't think there's too many people. I like people. Mind you, I live in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 9:47:11 AM
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Dear Jardine,

<<I like people.>>

Sure, but why do they need to come here all at once?
Can't they form a nice queue and enter this planet a few at a time?
Surely when one has no body-mind, one doesn't feel any pain or boredom, so what's the hurry if they wait a bit and come 5000 years later?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 10:11:26 AM
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Yuyutsu

They're in a hurry to get an iPhone.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:02:01 PM
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JKJ,
At our present, out of control, rate of population increase you won`t be in the middle of nowhere for all that much longer.
Posted by ateday, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:48:17 PM
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It may be too many people, but it's more too many in the wrong place.

I remember Bondi & Randwick as nice places, even when they had those dreadful trams causing a constant traffic jam. It can't be too bad now, or there would not be so many wanting to live there.

Of course Peter sounds like a long term resident, pissed off by all these awful people coming to clutter up his nice leafy existence. Well sorry mate, that what happens in areas close to the city. I'm damned if I can understand why, who would want to live there, but it's what happens. Hell mate, it is even happening out here in the sticks.

Then he gets irrational. He wants more public transport, & a huge underground, OK, fine. However he then bitches about the fare on that new[ish] convenient line to the airport.

He is obviously a city boy. You know the type. They want everything, but want the country folk, & the coal miners to pay for his comfort. Well sorry mate, we are subsidizing your city far too much all ready. If you want public transport, I'd like you to pay at least half the cost. Those of us out in the sticks, for whom public transport is merely a vague concept are sick of paying to subsidise yours in a growing proportion.

So mate, you know what to do. If you don't like it, get out. Come & join us in the sticks. I'm about to drive 25 kilometers to the supermarket, but guess what, no traffic jams.

There have been 60 houses built within a couple of kilometers of me, & they are going to build a supermarket in a big estate about 10 kilometers away, so I guess I'll have to go west some time soon, but hay, it's a big country.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 1:06:50 PM
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That's a good post, Hasbeen.
Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 5:36:24 PM
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Rapid rail roll-outs and long overdue decentralization, and the place won't feel nearly so crowded.
Use our own super funds to build a visionary, multi purpose, profit earning shipping canal in our arid centre, then use the guaranteed new water supply, to quite massively develop an empty arid interior, and it'll seem even less crowded.
As a nation, and without immigration, our current birth rate doesn't even replace those we lose!
So to say we are mad rooters, as one well know serial poster argues, is just blatant hysteric nonsense!
If he implies other nations are the problem, he could well be right?
And the only successful way to reduce that, is to educate the womenfolk, if only to have them understand they have a right to say no to both unwanted sex; and or, an unwanted partner!
And educated women, can earn their own income; meaning, they are then not beholden/entirely dependent for their entire lifetime, on some sex demanding man for their basic survival!
Women may have all the babies, but almost always, some man/pair of walking gonads, plants it in their bellies!
Back to the topic, we are just not over populated, just under serviced, with essential infrastructure, and that is caused by indolent pollies/ideologues, tax avoidance; plus failure to develop thirty year self terminating government guaranteed development bonds!
Which have to be used exclusively, for profit earning infrastructure, and a far better outcome, than selling essential infrastructure, to price gouging carpet baggers!
Tried parking at Sydney airport just lately; an excellent argument almost by itself, for the accelerated roll-out of rapid rail!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 11:36:33 PM
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Peter West, instead of side stepping the issues, look at the real problems ie the debt money creation system which keeps people on this planet perpetually poor and ignorant.

In 1960 $1.00 of debt created $2.40 of growth. Today $1.00 of debt creates $0.03 or 3 cents of growth. Source Jim Rickards 'Death of Money'

Exponentially more debt must be created in future years to pay for the debt of today. Thus we are on the hockey curve of debt and thus collapse.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 25 September 2014 6:08:50 AM
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The term "grumpy old man" springs to mind when reading this prolonged moan about fings not being wot they used ter be.

If you don't like living in the city, Mr West, why do you do it?

It will be far more beneficial to your mental health and wellbeing if you were to change your outlook, and possibly your living arrangements, rather than waiting for the world to change in a manner designed to make you feel better.

Because it won't.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 25 September 2014 1:26:03 PM
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Good comment, Pericles.
Posted by JF Aus, Thursday, 25 September 2014 1:46:43 PM
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Don't worry about over-population, folks! The coming nuclear war will take care of that.

But some nations will unexpectedly get leveled. And first on the list is the U.S.A.!

Can you believe it?
Posted by David G, Thursday, 25 September 2014 1:58:16 PM
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I think Eblola and other virus and disease due to famine during a next world war, will cause more death in the long term, than radiation.
Posted by JF Aus, Thursday, 25 September 2014 3:28:46 PM
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Ah yes, I remember it well.

Centennial park in June, to adapt the old song, was a wonderful place. Pretty girls feeding the ducks on a slow Saturday morning, but even better were those on the bridle path.

Yes there were riding schools hiring out horses along the boundary from the park, & a bridle path through the park. Why is it that the prettiest girls are attracted to horses?

It matters not, what was important was their reaction to the 18 year old hero who came along & tamed that horse that refused to move when asked nicely by the pretty girl. You didn't have to be a football hero, or rich & handsome, to get along with the beautiful girl, when you could restore order to their recalcitrant rented horse.

Yes those were the days, better by far, but alas for Peter & your hero, never to come again. I know Peter, it was nice to park in George street, to take that pretty girl to a movie, but alas, no more.

Perhaps you should join us other old fogeys out here in the sticks.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 25 September 2014 3:50:21 PM
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Hasbeen, what's the address? LOL
Posted by JF Aus, Thursday, 25 September 2014 3:58:58 PM
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