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Are men fools and clowns? Why media images of men matter : Comments

By Peter West, published 8/9/2014

The publicity officer of the NSW Teachers Federation said that she wanted to live in a world without men. This may please many women, but it doesn't offer much to men.

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JOM, did you read Foxy's post above?

How many stunning looking model-type women are on advertisements for selling cars, alcohol, mens toiletries, TV shows, insurance, and any number of others.
One doesn't need to look far at all.

Do you think these women are there to portray their bright intelligence?
Of course not!
They are there to say, if you buy this product, look what sort of 'hot chick' you can attract.

So the whining men who think the advertisers are being nasty to all the boys need to walk a mile in the girl's shoes, or else they can put in their complaints to the TV stations involved, just like everyone else has to.
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 8 September 2014 3:24:15 PM
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Suseonline :
"So the whining men who think the advertisers are being nasty to all the boys need to walk a mile in the girl's shoes, or else they can put in their complaints to the TV stations involved, just like everyone else has to."

And the women who think that the men are just 'whining' should have better things to do than to than listen to them.
Posted by phanto, Monday, 8 September 2014 3:47:26 PM
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Suse,
So really, it's all in your mind.
Which ads in particular grind your gears, I can't think of one single ad for cars, alchohol or toiletries which could be seen as demeaning to women by a normal, well adjusted person.
I don't really agree with that aspect of this article either simply because there's almost no advertising directed solely at men on TV these days which leads me to conclude that you don't watch that much and don't know what you're talking about.
How many women buy all their husband's clothes, alchohol and toiletries for them? My wife and daughters buy all my clothes, I don't even ask for them, they just come back from the shopping centre with a bag of clothes and say "These were on special, try them on"
This article about advertising in the U.S is revealing, women pay for almost 80% of goods and services over there and the most effective way of marketing to women is word of mouth ie women make most of their purchasing decisions based on the advice of other women.
http://www.business2community.com/consumer-marketing/women-purchase-more-than-80-of-all-products-and-services-0188091
The author does make some good points about certain drama series, "House Husbands" is a pathetic piece of work which has had me howling at the screen "For eff's sake just kill yourselves already!".
That said there are some excellent male characters on TV, Craig McLachlan's portrayal of Lucien Blake in the Dr Blake Mysteries is outstanding and Stephen Curry, Shane Jacobsen and William McInnes in The Time Of Our Lives also deserve a mention.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 8 September 2014 4:14:38 PM
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Whilst I think advertising plays pretty heavily on the men as bumbling idiots stereotype there are plenty of other images in the media that don't portray men that way. Likewise the stereotypes used in advertising featuring women are not always ones women appreciate and there are plenty of portrayals to cover a variety of outlooks.

It is easy to pick the ones we don't like and ignore so that don't fit the complaint. A series of RACQ adds annoy me a lot for their portrayal of men but the images of women in them hardly flatter most women either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJS58LzBhsw .

A little bit interested that Mollieme's sexist post has been ignored http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16657#292057 - not worth commenting on perhaps.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 8 September 2014 5:37:23 PM
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A selection of recent car adverts, they're all much the same these days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63SOaMsElaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NcHuGCZq-E
Lynx ads, the bane of Feminists world wide, what's the gender "power" dynamic in these skits?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=walLgxe1mcg
Bear in mind that most toiletries are purchased by women even if they're to be consumed by men so women obviously find these ads funny and tell their friends about the products.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 8 September 2014 6:10:18 PM
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What is more interesting is that the denizens of feminism who are always willing to trash-talk the huge majority of ordinary, respectable men are noticeable by their absence where feminism and political 'Progressivism' have led to great trauma and suffering.

See here, from the Rotherham thread,
Rotherham’s Collaborators
The helping professionals didn’t help; the caring professionals didn’t care
SEP15,2014,
Two weeks ago, the British press broke the news contained in Professor Alexis Jay’s “Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham.” Between 1997 and 2013, Jay estimated, 1,400 young girls in that Yorkshire town were exploited: gang-raped, trafficked to other cities, threatened, beaten, and forced to bring other girls into the network. The police did not respond to emergency calls from the girls and their families; fathers reported being threatened and even arrested for complaining. The victims and the authorities knew that “by far the majority of perpetrators” were “Asian,” meaning Pakistani/Kashmiri Muslims, who constitute about 3.7 percent of Rotherham’s population of 260,000.

Members of this group dominate the town’s taxi industry, and therefore had easy access to victims. The perpetrators were not merely pimps: They also dealt drugs and sold guns. Yet during the 17-year period she studied, Jay found, “councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how best they could jointly address the issue.”..

The only ones who haven’t had much to say are the feminists; but given their dismissive attitude even to women of Muslim background like Ayaan Hirsi Ali who testify to their mistreatment by Muslim men in the name of Islam, one can’t expect them to show up to support women of English ethnicity or Christian heritage, especially from the working classes. Some feminists try to defuse the situation without actually criticizing the perpetrators, such as Suzanne Moore in the Guardian..>

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/rotherham-s-collaborators_804406.html?nopager=1

Acrually, it isn't 'interesting' how feminists sort their priorities. It is disgusting and they are shameless. They are superficial and trivial too.

Any wonder that young women see themselves as having nothing in common with the self-interested, materialist, carping feminist dinosaurs of the previous Millenium.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 8 September 2014 6:37:34 PM
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