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Israel and Palestine : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 1/8/2014

I do not have much sympathy for people who place rocket bases in housing areas, though I recognise that Hamas sees its own cause as just.

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Lego here a a couple of differences between you and I.

You incite hatred.
You villify individuals and their ethnicity.
You demonize and stereotype people.

I villify behavior.
I villify a country's behavior
I do not stereotype or demonize anyone.

You cowardly hide behind a non de plume.

I am Keith Kennelly.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 4 August 2014 12:21:53 PM
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Jet

I know you blokes like to think you can rewrite history by leaving out large chunks.
But really why do you think we should ignore the existence of Christ and his sermon on the mount?

Why do you think we should ignore the influence of the Greeks?

Why do you think we should ignore the influence of the Catholic Church?

Why do you think we should ignore the influence of our reformation?

Why do you think we should ignore the influence of our Romantics and our Enlightenment?

Why do you think we should ignore our great liberal movement?

When all these histories have one unifying thread, a rejection of most of the teachings of the ancient Hebrew book, why do you think the Hebrew book trumps the vast traditions and evolving of our western Liberal Democracy.

Your book is in the dark ages along with the books of the other backward eastern religions.

Now that last statement is anti - semitic. It is aimed fairly and squarely in opposition to all backward mid eastern semitic religions.

God you are so shallow and silly I doubt you could even understand this post. I don't think you will try to enter into a debate. You haven't the intellect. I expect you will abuse me and cite easily contradicted verses from your book.

Here's a couple
'Do not do unto others...'
and
'An eye for an eye...'
and
'You reap what you sow...'

You choose? Lol a book for all atrocities.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 4 August 2014 12:43:33 PM
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Dane,

My point is that Hamas locates its rockets in densely populated areas, near schools and hospitals. Why? Perhaps you could explain the logic. What would you do, wearing your military cap, if you were in the Israeli situation?
Posted by Don Aitkin, Monday, 4 August 2014 4:43:22 PM
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SPQR

I think you've just proved it is possible to exist using less than half a brain.

lol
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 4 August 2014 5:52:15 PM
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WPQR

just to again highlight your deceit and your ongoing cowardly behaviour. Here is the whole quote not just part of it.

'Western liberal democracies are based in Christian beliefs. Can't say the same for Israel and the barbarism that is the culture and practise that we see from the Israelis in their perpetual occupations, blockades, land stealing, repressions and military incursions of over 50 years. Why haven't they succeeded in ridding the region of it's violence?'
In context and complete there is not the truncated interpretation you put up nor is there any indication any of Israel's victims think as I do.
Neither is there any indication I support any violence as you impute.

Now show some guts and reveal yourself or forever bear the label, lying coward.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 4 August 2014 6:08:42 PM
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Don,

"My point is that Hamas locates its rockets in densely populated areas, near schools and hospitals. Why? Perhaps you could explain the logic."

That's true. But where else can Hamas place them? Short of walking out into the few open spaces left to the Palestinians and sitting on a big red target with a sigh saying, 'send million dollar US made high explosives here', there's not really much else they can do.

The rockets only serve a propaganda purpose for Hamas. They spread some fear in Israel. Imagine being a Palestinian and knowing many people killed, seeing the death and destruction wreaked by Israel and then seeing the rockets going up. Surely it must make people feel like at lease Hamas is doing something in return to a merciless enemy.

Unfortunately, it also provides the Israeli propaganda machine an opportunity to blame the rockets. They even count them! I would love to see a count of Israeli shells, missiles, artillery and other ordnance dumped on Palestinians. Maybe someone is clever enough to research what re-supplies the US provides Israel with to give some idea

"What would you do, wearing your military cap, if you were in the Israeli situation?"

Religious jews (Hasidim) see Israel and Zionism as a disaster. I would make peace like Peres and Rabin were willing to. So as I'm not a maniac following a 19th century nationalist ideology, I would never be in the Israeli situation.

Israelis think they are too clever manipulating the West. But the West is in decline. The US is heavily indebted and politically gridlocked. It is declining rapidly. One day they won't be there to protect Israel. It might be 50 or 100 year away but Arabs have a long memory and one day they will take horrible revenge. -who could blame them?

btw. I'm not in any way pro-Arab. I would stop all muslim immigration to Australia tomorrow. However, I am human. I can't believe the people who defend a bloodbath and call it 'defence'. What is wrong with people?
Posted by dane, Monday, 4 August 2014 10:35:41 PM
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