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Israel and Palestine : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 1/8/2014

I do not have much sympathy for people who place rocket bases in housing areas, though I recognise that Hamas sees its own cause as just.

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Israel might be a democracy but it is not at all in any way the same as the Christian based western liberal democracies.

Western liberal democracies are based in Christian beliefs. Can't say the same for Israel and the barbarism that is the culture and practise that we see from the Israelis in their perpetual occupations, blockades, land stealing, repressions and military incursions of over 50 years. Why haven't they succeeded in ridding the region of it's violence?

What was it that Einstein said about madness?

That's right, if you keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome ... mate 50 years and continuing violence ... really wouldn't anyone with half a brain have worked it out?
Posted by imajulianutter, Sunday, 3 August 2014 4:02:51 PM
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And you to Leggo should have the guts to expose yourself as your last paragraph is also in breech of our Australian anti discrimination laws.
We have rejected such stupidity. Why haven't you?
Posted by imajulianutter, Sunday, 3 August 2014 4:05:42 PM
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@Ima...

<<And you to Leggo should have the guts to expose yourself as your last paragraph is also in breech of our Australian anti discrimination laws>>

And this comment of yours wasn't?
<< Can't say the same for Israel and the barbarism that is the culture and practise that we see from the Israelis...>>

Interesting perspective--you're beginning to think (I use that term very loosely) like those you champion!
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LEGO,

<< even OLO's own Poirot, believe that they were moral people and that their actions were justified>>
ROFLMAO --GOOD ONE!
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 3 August 2014 4:19:33 PM
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imajulianutter For your information, Western liberal democracies and Christian beliefs are based on Judaic law.
Posted by jet, Sunday, 3 August 2014 5:32:52 PM
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Careful, Jet, can't have people like you pushing logical thinking; poor Julian.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 3 August 2014 6:36:48 PM
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Hi Julianutter.

Because I am a liberal who supports free political speech, that's why. Freedom of political discussion on critical social issues is one of the foundations of western democracy. If you support 18C, then you are not a liberal, you are either a conservative or a reactionary.

And I will make one prediction, Julianutter, right here, and right now. If you support 18C, then sooner or later, you are going to fall foul of it yourself. Oops, looks like you already have, thank you SPQR.

EVERYBODY identifies groups of people that they do not like. They may not like them for because of their beliefs, their attitudes, or their behaviours. They think up derogatory names for them. They avoid them. They constantly criticise them. It is a cultural universal.

Some idiot has told you that sneering at other racial, national, or ethnic groups of people is just awful, and in your naivety and need to think you are superior, you fell for it. Hook, line and sinker. But you never bothered to think about it. And as SPQR has pointed out, you even do it yourself. But it never occurred to you that you were committing hypocrisy, because you are so convinced of your own moral superiority that it never crosses your mind that you should be held to the same standard as that which you so passionately endorse.

Sure as God made little green apples, Julianutter, I (and SPQR) are going to catch you out again. I know that I am gouging to do it, because this is a game I have played before with other finger wagging socialist evangelists, and I have never failed to catch them doing themselves, what they so vehemently claim is something their opponents do which is utterly wrong

So think twice before you go sneering at the Israelis or the Americans, or you may be hoist on your own petard.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 3 August 2014 7:13:14 PM
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