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I know not if you are a Julian but I'll agree with you on the last part.

'I do not have much sympathy for people who put rocket bases in housing areas'

Is this kindergarten time?

Israel uses fighters, tanks, warships and heavily artillery to pound one of the most densly populated ghettos in the world and you talk about the firecrackers Hamas sends over in return.

Honestly, what has happened to our sense of morality?

At this point Hamas has killed about 98% soliders and 2% civilians while Israel has killed about 98% civilians (many of them children).

To me it looks like Hamas are the more honourable fighters by far.

This is war isn't it? So when Hamas captures a prisioner it's called kidnapping and Israel claims over 100 lives in repraisals. That is honestly in the league of nazi retribution.

"Honestly, what has happened to our sense of morality?"

Pop over to twitter guys, and you'll see what's really happening - not the sanitised version provided by MSM.

You'll see broken Palestinian babies and blood spattered walls. You'll see little Palestinain tots sitting in the gutter, silent but alive beside the bodies of their dead parents, staring into space in utter hopelessness.

I never thought, in what I thought were enlightened times, I'd see so many slaughtered children - and so many Western govt's ignoring the hideous actions of Israel.

Somehow herding a people into a ghetto and depriving them of basics and freedom, with all the frustrations inherent in a people dispossessed so brutally - and then targeting UN designated safe areas, hospitals and schools for bombing is sickening.

Our Western "sense of morality" is selective, dane.

Of course anyone who expresses any sort of preference to peace, forgiveness and love and who expresses a desire foe decency would be seen by cowards like yourself as being nuts.

That is the history of your belief system Issy.

Then you wonder why you have suffered so much in you history. Without change or a western style enlightenment that is going to continue.

Yes, Don Aitken, almost every people consider their military attacks on others "just."

Hitler thought that his cause was just. Hitler did not say to himself "I am an evil man who wants to make war to conquer all of Europe for Germany", he really did believe that he was saving Europe from Jewish controlled Communism. Saddam Hussein, Al Capone, Pol Pot, Kim Il Sung, The Italian Red Brigades, the German Red Army Faction, the Japanese nationalists in 1939, the IRA, George Bush, even OLO's own Poirot, believe that they were moral people and that their actions were justified.

If you believe that Islam is the hope and light of the world, and that anyone who fights against the spread of Islam is unutterably evil, then the cause of Hama, ISIS, the Taliban, the Muslim Brotherhood, and HAMAS makes a lot of sense. But as a member of a culture which is responsible for spreading the world's self evidently most advanced civilisation around the world, I think that such an idea is absolutely potty.

Muslims as a group are an exceptionally moral group of people who's concept of morality is completely contrary to my own. Non leftist fringe group western people as a whole, see Israel as an amazing tiny state surrounded by enemies who's own Islamic civilisation is afailure, who have this neurotic compulsion to destroy Israel at any cost. We know that the Israelis are a western democracy who's people think very much like we do. We understand why Israel is bombarding Gaza because put in exactly the same position, we would do exactly the same thing.

This is different to the Arabs, who most definitely do not think like we do. We consider this Arab obsession to destroy Israel to be absolutely idiotic. It is the thinking of a people so obsessed with religion that nothing else matters. No wonder the whole Arab world is a basket case full of savages, it is populated with extremely moral idiots who really do think that they are on a mission to save the whole world for God.