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A new era in the Senate : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 30/6/2014

In my term in parliament, I want to convince Australians to reconsider whether handing their money over to the government is better than keeping it themselves.

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If I want a new road or school I should get together with my neighbours and organise it? Stupid, simplistic article by an adherent to a stupid, simplistic political ideology.
Posted by david f, Monday, 30 June 2014 9:36:30 AM
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Bravo David, you are a breath of fresh air. I only wish those desperate for change from the Laboral duopoloy had voted for your Liberal Democrat Party principles of freedom and responsibility instead of Clive Palmer. Certainly it seems they would have had more sensible policy ideas.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to change the name "public servants"? Servant is the old-fashioned word meaning employee. Public servants aren't servants of the public, they're servants of the State, and very much of what they do is actually a disservice to the public.

"Government employee" is not too good for them; or even our indigenous "gubba".
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Monday, 30 June 2014 9:37:31 AM
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With you all the way Senator and sorry we could not put someone like you from Victoria too. You should make the point that what is given, can also be taken away. Public Service fabulous pensions that go up up and away! Stop that and let them join the rest of us in paying for it via our wonderful banks. Lets see ASIC do something about fraud when it is their money.
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 30 June 2014 9:38:53 AM
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Presumably DL won't be using public roads on his way to and from Canberra.
And one hopes that DL isn't involved in a horrendous accident on the way to serve the public purpose. There'll be no referral to a hospital emergency service - alas, being funded by evil taxes. And if DL were to suffer permanent disability, well with the disability pension funded by more evil taxes and destined for the scrap heap, then it's every 'man' for himself.
If DL does manage to get to Canberra without any dependence whatsoever on public infrastructure and services funded by evil taxes, as a purist libertarian, one of DL's first tasks no doubt will be to knock on the head the PM's Biggles-type splurge on the F35s. After cruelling that purchase, he can start work on the comprehensive dismantling of the defense establishment.
Thence to the citizen militia.
Having given us all the right to bear arms, the swathe of victims of major bank fraud will be soon gunning for the bank CEOs and their henchmen. Add the law firms and the judiciary that protect them.
The top brass in Coles & Woolies, masters of predation, will naturally be fair game.
The law of the jungle. Bring it on I say.
And invest in prisons, privately owned of course, to ensure a healthy retirement nest egg. If your still alive by then of course.
Posted by EvanJ, Monday, 30 June 2014 9:39:06 AM
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I wish you will, and support some of your aspirations. But where did the 1.9 million public servants figure come from? A quick count shows 167k for the Cwth, 322k for NSW and 226k for Victoria … The Australian workforce is currently 11.6 million. Doesn’t seem likely to me.
Posted by Don Aitkin, Monday, 30 June 2014 9:53:28 AM
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Leyonhjelm is promoting a pipe dream which has absolutely no prospect of success unless preceded by legislation to wind back the legislation of 1942 and 72 years of history.

He was previously a member of both the ALP and the Liberal Party. This article demonstrates eloquently why he didn't and will not fit in with the major parties of either side of the aisle.

In 1927, his chosen base year, the States had their own income taxes. He has ignored the states taxes in his claim of 10% of GDP in 1927.

In 1927, the States' tax take was far greater than the federal one, but the States paid their own bills. In 1942, the Commonwealth legislated away the States' rights to income taxes, sales taxes, excises, company tax and more. Currently, States total taxation is of the order of 10% of the national total and the Commonwealth collects the rest.

So, in 1927, the ratio of the Commonwealth:State tax takes would have been about 10/90 and restricted to items such as defense and aged pensions.

Currently, the tax take is closer to 90:10, yet States are responsible constitutionally for at least half of the expenditure, including education, health and police, which are not Commonwealth responsibilities. The expenditure ratio is now close to 50/50, yet the Commonwealth controls the purse via Clause 96 grants to States. We now have wasteful duplication at Federal level of Ministers and Departments of Departments of Health and Education, etc. They would simply not exist, were it not for 1942 and the resulting vertical fiscal imbalance between Commonwealth and States.

Australia's vertical fiscal imbalance is said to be the largest in the world. Maybe this is Leyonhjelm's true target, but he did not say so.

Instead, he has proposed to unilaterally reduce Federal taxation to 10% of GDP, ie $150B. This is unrealistic madness, not worthy of consideration, yet the AFR published this article and OLO has followed them.

In closing, the original Parliament House was "temporary" and overcrowded.
Posted by JohnBennetts, Monday, 30 June 2014 10:08:07 AM
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