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By Victor Dominello, published 27/6/2014

We have strong laws in place to ensure that people are not discriminated against on the grounds of race. That is why the NSW Government opposes changes to the Commonwealth Racial Discrimination Act that would dilute these protections.

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Excellent article by the Hon Victor Dominello MP and Minister for Citizen and Communities in NSW. There is definitely no room in Australia for racism, intolerance or the spread of hatred in our multicultural society. We also need to prevent jihadists from coming or returning to Australia.
Posted by Macedonian advocacy, Friday, 27 June 2014 10:42:05 AM
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While one can agree with most of this, and the first post, we need to ensure, any proposed changes don't impact negatively, on our so call freedoms, that used to include the right to assembly, and unfettered freedom of "reasonable" expression.
And as the desecration of the Ukraine church proves, racism doesn't necessarily have a white face!
Any African or indigenous Australian, that has played any sport in India, will attest to that observation.
And our so called rights, can only be truly protected, by a bill of rights, not a huffing and puffing indignant, if unpopular politician, facing an upcoming election.
A bill of irrevocable rights, i.e., would have prevented John Howard's coalition, from being able to lock up a gentle, kind, compassionate, Dr Haneef, without charge or probable cause, but solely on a racial profile. That my friends, is the real face of racism in this country?
Let's not forget, that some Aussies are going to war-torn places, at their own expense and behest, to do humanitarian work.
Should we ban Australian, Doctors without borders i.e., simply because they are operating unofficially, in a war-torn environment, where a power crazed dictator, is murdering the innocent?
I'd pin a medal on them!
We need to have corroborating and bona fide evidence, before we start persecuting innocent persons ourselves!
Given we have space age lie detection technology; one wonders why we persist with NOT using it, to find out who is the Jihadist, and who is the mercy worker, or who is the real refugee?
And who is the charming affable people smuggler, looking for an ultra safe base for criminal operations, or a smiling Jihadist, intent on radicalizing our own innocent and trusting youth!?
Do it right the first time, and you only have to do it once!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 27 June 2014 11:12:04 AM
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The goal of Islam is to foist a world caliphate on its own people and on all nonbelievers. The cult is the enemy of the secular individual autonomy and freedom ushered into being in the Enlightenment. Those are the values not only of Australia but also of every decent country on earth. An absolute condition for acceptance in Australia must be total commitment to the Enlightenment values which include freedom for unbelief, impiety, blasphemy, apostasy. Note that freedom for these rights doesn't mean personal practice of them - just untrammelled acceptance of the rights of others to reject a religion, to mock it, to contradict it, to leave it.

Many anti-human cults surround a toxic core with a sugar coating. Islam is such a cult. To get an idea of just how it operates one must consider not only its self-description but also the analysis of its message by its ideological opponents, such as the unpicking of the Moslem technique of "taqiyya" by the Zionist writer Raymond Ibrahim at http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war. The scum who travel to the Middle East to murder for Islam are not extremists. They are just following the rules of taqiyya at a different stage from the imams whose role is to "make nice" for now.

The answer is not to slam the door on refugees from the Moslem world (which lowers Australia morally to Moslem standards) but to make clear to wannabe residents (no matter how they arrive) that they have to commit individually to total acceptance and defence of others' personal religious or non-religious or anti-religious rights and will be chucked out at any sign that they haven't.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Friday, 27 June 2014 11:57:49 AM
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There are many more racists among those who claim to be racially discriminated against than any other group.
Posted by individual, Friday, 27 June 2014 12:28:36 PM
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As stated by Macedonian Advocacy, There is definitely no room in Australia for racism, intolerance or the spread of hatred in our multicultural society.

However, the alternative advocated by Mr. Dominello is not a healthy one. Mr. Dominello is calling on people (Australians) to develop an identity, an Australian identity in this case - but identity is an error; any identification with any limited body, be it physical or social, denies our true divine identity, that we - and all else - are nothing but God.

Our sole loyalty should be to God. If we are not there yet, then this is the goal to thrive for, to strip ourselves of all other identities rather than to be caught in an endless cycle of limited mundane identities.

Just to clear any doubt, by "God" I do not refer to any cultural or legendary god, nor do I advocate loyalty to any human-establishment, including churches and similar religious organisations. Instead, I refer to that which is common to us all, that which we truly are, that which is our true identity.

Racism, intolerance and hatred separate us from God, so avoiding these is an essential preliminary, yet a far cry from where we are heading.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 27 June 2014 2:28:11 PM
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Yuyutsu,
What really gets to me is that the racists are always calling for an end to racism, well, the ball is in their court !
Posted by individual, Friday, 27 June 2014 2:55:48 PM
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People from one ethnicity = common/shared = harmonious

People from multiple similar/related ethnicities = common/shared = harmonious

People from 6000 ethnicities, each unrelated to most of the others = divergent/contradictory/incompatible = absurd/chaotic/discordant
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 27 June 2014 4:02:38 PM
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Dear Individual,

<<What really gets to me is that the racists are always calling for an end to racism, well, the ball is in their court !>>

It is a psychological fact that those who criticise others, do so because they see their own faults in others.
This observation was already made as early as in the Talmud: http://juchre.org/talmud/kiddushin/kiddushin4.htm#70b

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‘Why did you have it proclaimed that he is a slave?’ He answered: ‘Because he was wont to call [other] people slaves, and he who declares [others] unfit is [himself] unfit, and never speaks good [of anyone]; and Samuel said: With his own blemish he stigmatizes [others] as unfit.’
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Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 27 June 2014 6:38:52 PM
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When was the last time anyone saw a chinese restaurant employing anyone except chinese? Diversity is for fools and children.

As for muslims; they have no place in our society whatsoever.
Posted by Cody, Friday, 27 June 2014 7:25:46 PM
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Your all the same species.....what the hell is wrong with you all?

Kat
Posted by ORIGINS OF MAN, Saturday, 28 June 2014 4:25:12 PM
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We are not of the same species; - do you see schools of different fish in the oceans? Or do you see schools of the same fish?
Posted by Cody, Saturday, 28 June 2014 5:17:31 PM
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Cody...a very nice question....maybe some other members can answer that for you.

Kat
Posted by ORIGINS OF MAN, Saturday, 28 June 2014 6:51:30 PM
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Are fish racist?
Posted by Cody, Saturday, 28 June 2014 7:26:20 PM
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Cody...honestly, I've never ask one:)

Kat
Posted by ORIGINS OF MAN, Saturday, 28 June 2014 7:49:07 PM
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Are fish racist?
Cody,
Well, freshwater fish don't mingle much with sea water fish, only eels & salmon do as far as I know, so the rest must be too racist to bother to mix.
Eels are extremely slippery customers & the salmon are so stupid they choose to die for the result of a one night stand. I know lots of people who are like that too.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 28 June 2014 8:11:00 PM
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The simple answer to this is that multiculturalism is destroying our country. We can play around and deceive each other and ourselves with the nice little slogans such as "strength in diversity" or "diversity is our greatest strength", but these are all lies. Oh, and I just love "Harmony day", which if multiculturalism was really good for the country, we wouldn't actually need a harmony day. Groups, families, clubs, societies and even countries always work better with similar like minded people working together. The Multiculturalists want to make us feel responsible for all these other failed cultures, but it is not our responsibility to save the rest of the world. All we will do is destroy our once great Australia.
Most of the racism I see today is against ordinary white Australians. We are not meant to be racist against any group, except for one group, white Australians. in many areas of society there are government sanctioned laws to give preference to various groups (BASED ON THEIR RACE, yes based solely on their RACE) over white Australians. These areas include entry to UNI, employment in government organisations, etc etc. Its called positive discrimination, but its still just another form of DISCRIMINATION dressed up as something different, with a bit of spin and positive connotation to make it sound different to what it really is. You see, when you give positive discrimination to one group, you automatically discriminate AGAINST those not contained in that group.
Just a few weeks ago there was a public outcry in the media about those 2 girls supposedly verbally abusing an older man on a bus, and I believe they even kicked him once or twice. Very poor behaviour really, no one supports this. However at around the same time a young white kid got bashed and stabbed multiple times by a group of over 10 African guys, which could easily have ended up in his death. There was hardly a word in the media
Posted by ozzie, Saturday, 28 June 2014 9:40:13 PM
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ozzie

Everybody on the planet knows that what you say is correct. People who say the opposite are, for some baffling reason, just fooling themselves, suffer from some personality disorder, or take drugs.
Posted by Cody, Sunday, 29 June 2014 11:22:15 AM
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"Cody...a very nice question....maybe some other members can answer that for you."

Or maybe you could, Kat/ORIGINS OF MAN.

Each school/pod is not merely a "species", but a tribe, family or other subdivision of a species.

A fish from one school cannot just jump over to another school because they're the "same species".

Animals are tribal and territorial, just like humans.
They are hostile to outsiders, even of their own species or breed.

The idea that people from any ancestry/tribe should be able to hop, skip and jump into any other group, and that the other group *must* accept them as their own, flies in the face of all we know about human and animal psychology and behaviour.

It is utter fantasy, delusion, bull$#!+
Posted by Shockadelic, Sunday, 29 June 2014 2:42:55 PM
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Don't know whether any of you have noticed, but we are not fish, although some of you appear rather cold-blooded. Some of the comments here demonstrate that the enemy within is just as strong as the enemy without. And I'm not talking about Islamic Jihadists, but those who deny that inclusiveness is, and ought to be, an Australian characteristic.
Posted by GrahamY, Sunday, 29 June 2014 6:42:27 PM
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You forget that it is pointless to try and include those who will exclude you without a second thought.
Posted by Cody, Sunday, 29 June 2014 6:47:29 PM
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And we should not 'ought' to be anything. We should be as we choose, rather than adhere to some silly left wing ideal.
Posted by Cody, Sunday, 29 June 2014 6:52:35 PM
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Would you also be so kind as to define 'inclusiveness'? The local Aboriginal group in the area I work in find your comments rather inane, silly and irrelevant. They certainly don't wish to be 'inclusive' to other Aboriginal groups with completely different customs, social and family structures. Are they also 'the enemy within'? They are far more Australian than you or I will ever be, and they most certainly don't think they have benefitted from 'multiculturalism' in any way, shape or form.
Posted by Cody, Monday, 30 June 2014 9:47:42 AM
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No we are not fish, but we are animals.
*All* animals are tribal and territorial.

The enemy within are the "noble idealists" who ignore all the knowledge of anthropologists, linguists, archeologists, etc. while claiming to be "educated", "rational" and "scientific".

They happily encourage the displacement of dozens of Western cultures and peoples, ironically in the name of cultural diversity.

They will "tolerate" anything but dissent.

No culture or people can "include" every other culture and people.
It is ridiculous, absurd, impossible.

This is not about exclusion versus inclusion.
It is sane versus insane.
Posted by Shockadelic, Monday, 30 June 2014 11:47:22 AM
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GrahamY, you only need to read the rantings of pure hatred from one Junaid Thorne to witness the insanity of your so called 'inclusiveness'. How do you reply to that? I had no idea a multiculturalist could keep his mouth shut for so long.
Posted by Cody, Monday, 30 June 2014 5:12:30 PM
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