tse/quote,,>>..<<..Where is there an end..to>>..WAR

SE ANZAC/COVE/d-day beach..<<..the drifting wreckage,
The prayer..>>..prayed over the LOST,..OVER<<...the bone..on the beach,..the unprayable..Prayer..at the calamitous annunciation>>..as mankind makes/its wars.

<<..There is no end, but>>
every day/our leaders/sent<<..addition:>>
ignoring THE WOUNDed-CRIES..PROPagandas lies
<<..the trailing-Consequence..of further days and hours,
While emotion takes to itself..the emotionless..>>stillness
compounded/and agrieved/agrivated..with..<<Years of living among the breakage..o=>>..of broken miNDS/..WOUNDED PRIDES/CHILD BRIDES/ans free-rides...

so what/to those blinded/by war fires/
the inner-furies..remnants..<<..of times long past
Of what was believed in..exuberantly/as the most reliable -
And therefore the fittest for renunciation.>>..

HERE THERE SEEMS..the senslessness
of words left unspoken/they have earned/their rest

...

<<..I sometimes wonder..if that is what Krishna meant -
Among other things - or one way of putting the same thing:
That the future is..[BUT]..a faded song,>>of the sham/gLORIES
OF THE COLOURS/OF WARS GORE..<<..a Royal Rose or a lavender spray
Of wistful regret..for those who are..not yet here/to regret,>>forget
the/last/wurd/earthly thought/hope fear/shredded lifeblood/unshed tears many a shed fear/lies within here,<<..Pressed between yellow leaves ..of a book that has never been opened.>>..AS THE REALITY..OF OPPORTUNITY WASTED/LEAVES ITS NEXT SCAR...WHAT ARE WEFIGHTING/BUT OUR OWN INNER DEMONS/WHO CRINGE IN SHAME/FORCING OUR MATERIALISED BODIES/TO DO THE SAME.

LONG NEED WE SPEAK OUT LOUDLY
NEVER EVER AGAIN..the bloodlust drIVES MEN/FIT OR LAME..;INSANE
LET ELIOTS ps tell us..to nar read/from that unholy of books/ho\w to make war..no not ever again/warring is never a gain....its a dead loss/who gIVES A TOSS.

OH DEAR ..so dear/the loss
and we still know not/its full cost.

AND HERE WE ART/still dividing/riPPING OTHERS CREATIONS..appart

Why on earth would you want a cure at Lourdes to stay longer here in this corrupt violent world, when if you are so religious that you are taught that the afterl life is a far, far better place to be in, so why want a Catholic miracle to take place, proves to me the here and now is better than the alternative, but you are religious for goodness sake, why not get to the after life quicker, proves to me deep down you do not beieve in the rubbish rammed down your throat by the clergy.

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Dear One Under God,

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« AND HERE WE ART/still dividing/riPPING OTHERS CREATIONS..appart »

We entered not by infraction. The poet invited us in. We broke nothing, nothing disturbed. Just inhabited, rearranged, made our own and gave life … as spring invests the trees with leaves.

Phlebas the Phoenician, a fortnight dead,
Forgot the cry of gulls, and the deep sea swell
And the profit and loss.

A current under sea

Picked his bones in whispers. As he rose and fell
He passed the stages of his age and youth
Entering the whirlpool.

Gentile or Jew

O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.

(T.S.Eliot : “Death by Water”)

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Dear Ojnab,

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You wrote :

« … why want a Catholic miracle to take place … »

There is no such thing as “a Catholic miracle”. Miracles are not created by the Catholic church. Nor are they the property of the Catholic church. There are only miracles. Miracles probably occur more often than any of us are fully aware – despite the communications revolution.

As there is no scientific explanation for them, the Catholic church singles out some very concrete and particularly impressive human experiences which it presents as evidence of “divine intervention” (naturally, of the deity conceived by the Catholic church itself).

This is part of the Church’s strategy of proselytism of new recruits and reinforcement of loyalty of existing followers.

It is precisely the strategy that the Buddha refused to adopt, despite the insistence of his followers, by declaring (on the subject of miracles) : “I dislike, reject and despise them”.

As the American philosopher, Doug Smith, points out:

« Perhaps the Buddha is really saying that these miracles don’t bring people to the dhamma for the right reasons. They are mere circus show; the sorts of things that stun and delight the crowd but don’t really instruct. The real miracle is not supernatural at all. It is the ‘miracle’ of the dhamma : of teaching true wisdom. »

Given the context at the time, the Buddha’s attitude is perfectly understandable. Miracles, magic, superstition and religion were all closely associated. Since then, time has passed and engendered a considerable development of scientific knowledge. The playing field has changed, the winners and losers with it, and the Catholic church has intelligently repositioned itself as a complement of science rather than a competitor.

The Church now waits patiently on the sidelines until science has finished playing its game, cheering and booing with the crowd. It then goes on field to play a completely different game of its own, with its own crowd of supporters though it is not unusual to find quite a number scientists among them.

The new strategy seems to be paying off quite well.

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Dear Banjo,

>> Catholic church singles out some very concrete and particularly impressive human experiences which it presents as evidence of “divine intervention”<<

The Catholic Church does not “present” these things as “evidence” of divine intervention. It is the Richard Dawkins kind that seek/require universally convincing “evidence” for God, making His existence as obvious as that of you or I. Actually, it is explicitly stated that a Catholic does not have to believe in the miracles of Lourdes or similar places.

Banjo,

"As there is no scientific explanation for them, the Catholic church singles out some very concrete and particularly impressive human experiences which it presents as evidence of “divine intervention” (naturally, of the deity conceived by the Catholic church itself)."

I thought that the concept of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God predated Christianity.