Emperor Julian, remind me about the last time 30 or so kill-crazies got onto airliners. They were licenced Australian shooters, right?

So far we have ZERO truck-bombs detonated by licensed Australian shooters at the A-G's Department offices; ZERO IEDs detonated under hate-bots like the Greens and NCGC; ZERO police tortured and disembowelled after being captured by militants; and zero hate-twisted political correctniks losing hands to mailbombs sent by licenced Australian shooters.

Thats a pretty good track record those gun laws achieved after smashing the reputations of licenced, police-approved, squeaky-clean good people. Certainly time you took you brand of tolerance and insight to the Middle East, you might acheive great things.

@EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 2:11:03 PM

What you are not saying is that the offenders and victims of weapons offences in the US are almost invariably young blacks from poor neighborhoods. They are most often members of gangs and drugs are involved. There is a lot of money in drugs and enforcement of payment, theft and protection of territory are common motivations for violence.

Note that I referred to weapons, because the gun is only one of the tools used to kill and injure. There are reasons why other weapons might be preferred, for example horror and less risk of detection (noise) and tracing, but no one here is much interested in any of that.

Has anyone wondered why political animals and accomplished masters of spin and wedge politics such as Australia's John Howard and US President Barack Obama have never discovered those inconvenient facts? Cynical populism trumps statesmanship.

If it is claimed that the lone wolves who carry out multiple killings can be deterred or stopped through John Howard's bureaucratic BS 'gun control' that only affects and is complied with by the respectable law-abiding citizens who would never offend and are in fact the mainstays of peaceful, civil society, lets have it.

Please show us exactly how John Howard's 'gun control' would have stopped Bryant, or any of the other evil fiends who killed in Australia?

Evil doers are not deterred by laws. It is early detection through public cooperation with a well-trained, well-resourced and well-directed police force that can get these animals.

Diverting the scant resources of weapons branch police and the few police manning local stations onto monitoring and paying flying visits and home inspections of respectable, licensed citizens is bloody stupid, except to gun control nuts (who probably support criminals rights anyhow) and cynical politicians pursuing easy populism through headlines.

Worse, hounding ordinary people who are already certified by police to be respectable citizens (obligatory condition to get a licence!) carries the very real risk of destroying public's respect and cooperation that police rely upon to perform their duties.

On the beach asks: "Please show us exactly how John Howard's 'gun control' would have stopped Bryant, or any of the other evil fiends who killed in Australia?"

Answer: He couldn't have done without the gun to do it with. Exact enough?

how abt examining the truth of the false-flag psy-op that dis-armed Australia?

http://tinyurl.com/prt-arthur-fcbk ;

oh.....sorry!....would that be against the Forum's *censor-ship* rules?!?

hi jimbo..most things are permitted[its presumed we are all grown-up]
mods mainly go by complaint..[not spurilous;these soon reveal them selves.

anyhow im presuming..you got info at the link

quote..>>#
Martin Bryant is Innocent -
Michael Charles Dyson shooter at Seascape
June 6
"Martin Bryant.....we demand an inquiry"
(our 'sister' group!!)

http://www.facebook.com/groups/91420938632/

Wikileaks
Non-Profit Organization

#
Martin Bryant is Innocent -
Michael Charles Dyson shooter at Seascape
May 7
Jim & Wolf "barn-storm" Newtown Public School meeting.....
http://www.facebook.com/SandyHookJustice

;it's goin' DOWN, me nigrahz..... ☻/..>>[?]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLorM5scm8k ;
if the Sandy Hook HOAX is exposed.......>>

it has been/
http://xrepublic.tv/node/9461
ITS A CHILD DEATH CULT*..
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Death-records-for-796-children-at-Tuam-home-published-in-full.html
http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/the-solution-to-everything-slavery-to-the-state/

http://www.blacklistednews.com/South_Dakota_has_Raked_in_%24100_Million_in_Homeland_Security_Grants_Despite_No_Known_Terrorist_Threats%E2%80%A6Ever/35993/0/0/0/Y/M.html

<<.the PAM & Dunblane hoaxes/psy-ops
could be *next cabs off the rank*<<..

interesting..any more detail?

@EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 4:09:31 PM

Bryant was unlicensed, he used an illegal gun that had previously been turned into police in a gun amnesty. He committed a string of offences including murder, all of which were illegal at then and now.

I ask again, exactly how could Howard's 'gun control' have stopped Bryant?

It is very clear from media reports of drive-by shootings that Howard's 'gun control' does not prevent OMG bikies from importing the new gangster type guns they like to threaten one another with and don't mind using.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/100-shootings-and-counting-merrylands-tops-driveby-list-20120911-25psc.html

The increased incidence of gun violence by bikies appears to be associated with drugs and the middle eastern involvement, bikies who can't even ride bikes and have criminal backgrounds.

None of that has anything to do with the thousands of respectable, law-abiding Australian citizens who have satisfied all of the conditions and passed character references with flying colours.