One very important point about the Port Arthur massacre, the supposed reason for implementing much tougher in laws in Australia is that MARTIN BRYANT WAS NOT THE GUNMAN! Thanks to governments in western countries having much less power to control stuff posted on the Internet than influence mainstream media,anyone can now examine info that they hoped would remain hidden. Try googling eg "Port Arthur Massacre Coverup" and have a good look through what comes up. It can be readily concluded that the Port Arthur Massacre was planned by anti gun psychopaths and Martin Bryant was selected well in advance and set up to take the blame. Seems the real main gunman was a young bloke from South Australia who committed suicide six months later. His father had been around and obviously had some involvement in the conspiracy. Note a couple of important description discrepancies. (Are also circumstantial ones) Bryant had formerly proven a left handed mediocre shooter. Gunman was a right handed crack shot. Bryant's appearance was of in late 20's with smooth facial complexion. Several witnesses noted gunman as no older than early 20's with heavily pock marked face. Note with most alleged "lone gun nut massacres, gunman usually supposedly commits suicide or is killed in shootout. Attempts to achieve this with Martin failed as did subsequent attempt to have him burnt by torching Seascape Cottage. He came running out in an apparently drugged state (obviously not enough!) unarmed, suffering severe burns and yelling "Don't shoot, I am the hostage". (In a police exercise?) He had been fiends with owners of cottage. Then there was a quick "Trial by Media" with Martin being portrayed as guilty with what amounts to contempt of court. He was held in illegal solitary confinement until after obvious considerable duress was persuaded to plead guilty. Any attempt to convict him against a proper defence would have obviously been thrown out of court from lack of evidence he was the gunman and a lot against. Hopefully as this becomes widely recognised he can be given a retrial and pardon.

It seems a major reason why there have been no more mass shootings in Australia done on supposed initiative of a deranged individual "lone nut gunman' is that Port Arthur incorporated major stuff ups to the plan devised by anti gun psychopaths. This has discouraged them from trying another. However, obviously some more recent ones in the USA have been planned. Needs some to be properly exposed and the REAL CRIMINALS brought to justice to stop more of them - and also reduce genuine dimwit copycat shootings. eg Sandy Hook is now becoming widely recognised as more like "Shady Hoax" thanks to Internet exposure.

Seems initial plan at Port Arthur was to slaughter a group of elderly American tourists at Port Arthur cemetery on "Isle of the Dead". This would have helped anti gun agenda of then US President Bill Clinton. Then end it with siege at Seascape Cottage to frame and kill Bryant and allow real gunman to get away. However, a last minute due to timetable change not noted earlier, this proved impracticable. Those slaughtered instead obviously included some who had some involvement of the massacre conspiracy.

Then Martin Bryant not being killed presented a major problem. It required a lot of corrupt efforts, including by senior politicians, police and the anti gun mainstream media to cover up the true story at the time. Now it can be readily exposed via social media and other websites, hopefully an enquiry into the whole incident and retrial for Martin Bryant can be arranged. Note there are obviously still many people in positions of influence who will do everything they can to stop this and perpetuate the official lies though. Seems to me if proper legal processes are followed, it would be possible to charge John Howard with being an accessory after the fact to the PAM due to his obvious considerable involvement in helping the cover ups.

MOXY..ITS SOP [STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE]
LEST WE FORGET THEM POLITICAL KIDS KILLED IN SWEDEN?
WHERE poolice took hours to get on site..ITS COMMEDY CAPERS IF IT WASNT ALL SO DELIBERATED..911.WAS SET UP..CRYSTAL NACHT..ITS ENDLESS.

i hate to know the damage a fuel takers could do running its load through the sewer/line downtown..or into a lift/any half wit can think up ways to make maqss murder..but govt uses it rooteenly...

sop...fight or flight
keep us unbalanced in fear then lord it over us by fear..
BUT THEY WHO LISTEN TO..DEMONS..reveal their own inner demons.

by their works will we know them..they pick up fools
or tell them ..'its a training' exersize'..[they even high jack kids and say just do it//or else[these people are scum/most of them are armed/its them the elite really fear

i often thought..all them security dudes
almost like he is in 'protective'-custody..but then hear the words from those watching/protecting..'dont worry mate..we wont make anything happen/if ya just do as ya told'..[its not only your life we hold.

how stupid..to kil innocents[indeed how insane to kill evil doers
THEY JUST BECOME DEMONS..AND HAUNT US LOOKING FOR ENERGY[ANGER/FEAR\WASTEd emotion;they feed off

funny enough much evil in hell/isnt even animate
its just attracted to vile linke iron filings to magnets

you thUnk it/thus you Attracted much worse\INTO YOU
SPIRITS..INFUENCE US TO DO/MOTIVATERS..WETHER THEY FILL A BOTTLE OR YA GUT.

The abrupt transition from established science to outlandish woo is positively comical. And once the quackery starts, it doesn't stop. You're first treated to a background on all things demonic (boldness added to emphasize the absurdity):
http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/06/published_scientific_paper_blames_schizophrenia_on_demons.html
In our region, demons are believed to be intelligent and unseen creatures that occupy a parallel world to that of mankind. In many aspects of their world, they are very similar to us. They marry, have children, and die. The life span, however, is far greater than ours (Ashour 1989).

1987 Joseph Schwab
1987 Julian Knight
1987 Frank Vitkovic
1990 Paul Evers
1991 Wade Frankum
1992 Malcolm Baker
1996 Martin Bryant

the only name on that list that really counts is Martin Bryant's and all the available evidence indicates his total innocence....

Vitkovic & Frankum can *also* be struck out because there's a reasonable amount of evidence that the two incidents they were allegedly involved in (Queen Street and Strathfield) were either false-flags or hoaxes...

>>I know this irrefutable and overwhelming statistic must stick in the craw of guys like OTB. They dance around with what ifs, with statistics from the US, with cost analysis but in the end they can't BS their way around the patently obvious fact, the gun control measures were extraordinarily effective. To claim otherwise is to be open to the charge of being delusional, though judging from some of
the posters here they are in good company.<<

wouldn't matter is there was *one mass shooting per week*....because the right to own fire-arms for self-defence purposes....and....that *includes* the most effective firearms like mil'-style semi-autos with hi-cap mgzns, is so basic and so important that *NO EXCUSE* can justify its removal.....

"The right to keep and bear arms is so much a fundamental precept,
in respect to the capacity of the citizen to defend himself, his family, his friends and his property against military invasion, armed insurrection, totalitarian regimes and felons as to over-ride the will of the majority. The inalienable right to keep and bear arms is balanced by a corresponding duty; not to infringe the right of one's neighbour to security of person and property"
Sir Laurence Street, (former) NSW Chief Justice

The USA is touted by gun prohibitionists as proof about how gun availability is the primary cause of why the USA's homicide rate is five times higher than Australia. But this argument can be easily countered by pointing out that if all the gun related homicides in the USA were completely removed from the US homicide statistics, the USA's homicide rate would still be twice the Australian rate. Any fair minded person would have to concede that something other than firearms is the reason why US citizens kill other US citizens a lot more than Australians do.

According to the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics, in 2001, 55% of the handgun shootings in the entire state of NSW occurred within the boundaries of two notorious ethnic ghettoes (Canturbury-Bankstown and Fairfield-Cabramatta-Fairfield.)

That certain ethnicities are very disproportionately connected with violent crimes involving firearms is self evident. In the USA, the connection between firearm availability, homicide rates and ethnicity is more striking. Australia has a homicide rate of 1.8 per 100,000, which is almost identical to the northern, mostly white US states where firearm laws are very liberal. According to figures published in the Sporting Shooters "Shooters Journal" magazine, in 1990, the homicide rate for New Hampshire was 1.8, 1.71 for North Dakota, and 1.1 for Vermont.

As in Australia, it is those US cities and suburbs containing very high numbers of certain crime prone minorities (cities which usually have strict gun laws) which greatly distort the US homicide rate. The overall inner city US black male homicide rate are 122 per 100,000, and the rate is a whopping 227 per 100,000 among Washington DC black male teens. The Hispanic homicide rate is almost as bad.

If culture is a guide to behaviour, then it is hardly surprising that some ethnic minorities are so violent when you watch or listen to their culture of their young males. Rap music and it's associated videos constantly glamourise the lifestyle of violent street gang members, as well as drug abuse , misogyny, disrespect of authority, and the solving of personnel disputes with weapons.

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Video images of drive by shooting with a rap music background as mated images of weapons best suited to performing that aim. Add to that the penchant for rap music groups to possess charming names like THE MURDERERS and THE LO LIFES. One artist "Lil Wayne" threatens in one "song", "I'll cock my Glock and spray ya." THE LO LIFES gave an interview in THE SOURCE pop music magazine which boasted about their shoplifting skills.

My premise, is, that massacres and spiralling crime rates are not caused by the mere presence of guns in any society, it is caused by our increasingly violent culture which is being pitched to increasingly poorly socialised and immature young men, to think that extreme violence, a sneering contempt for authority, drug abuse, criminal behaviour, contempt for females, and possessing the callousness to actually go and kill somebody, is the hallmark of a Real Man.

Such media transmitted conditioning is a powerful message to any fatherless, poorly socialised low status young male, with a low IQ and a poor self image, who is desperate to enhance his social standing among his peers.