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Pope’s political power play in Palestine promises pandemonium : Comments

By David Singer, published 4/6/2014

It apparently matters not that the Pope can ignore the Fundamental Agreement made by the Holy See with Israel when it suits the Pope to do so.

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i note the qyeen made some decrees last night
judgment day continues
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16376&page=1
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 5 June 2014 9:54:48 AM
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#halduell

The problem is not me.

The problem is the following;
"All had plunged into the political mire that constitutes the 130 years old Arab-Israel conflict believing they could resolve it - but ultimately discovered it was destined to become their political graveyard."

Of course none of these current political leaders would have faced the ignominious failure that has befallen them - had the Arabs not rejected any of the following earlier opportunities afforded them - which the Jews accepted:

1. 1922 - 78% of Mandatory Palestine for the Arabs and 22% for the Jews

2. The 1936 Peel Commission recommendations

3. The 1947 United Nations Partition Plan

4. Doing nothing between 1948-1967 to create a third State in Mandatory Palestine with its capital in Jerusalem when not a single Jew lived in those areas after they all had been driven out by invading armies from six neighbouring Arab countries.

5. The offer made by Israel in 2000/1

6. The offer made by Israel in 2008

The Arabs are entitled to reject any offers that do not suit them - as are the Jews.

But where has 92 years of rejection got the Arabs?

It is a brave spirit who ventures into this conflict believing he can resolve it.

The latest - "the two-state solution" - espoused by Obama, Kerry, the European Union and the Quartet - has proved an abject failure.

My following proposal could well be next on the list of attempts to help resolve the conflict:

Direct negotiations between Israel and Jordan conducted pursuant to:
1. The Mandate for Palestine and article 80 of the UN Charter
2. Security Council Resolution 242
3. The Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty 1994

It may fail - but what other alternative is left - short of further conflict?
Posted by david singer, Friday, 6 June 2014 11:55:51 AM
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#mikk

You ask:

"singer in what way does abbass's comment
"I’m willing to agree to a third party that would supervise the agreement, such as NATO forces, but I would not agree to having Jews among the NATO forces, or that there will live among us even a single Israeli on Palestinian land." profess hatred of jews?"

Abbas has made it clear

1. No Jews in NATO forces or any third party charged with supervising an agreement between Israel and the PLO

2. No Israeli - of whom 80% are Jews - living on Palestinian land.

3. The 350000 living in the West Bank will have to pack up and get out, No doubt their synagogues will be trashed as happened in Gaza in 2005 and Jerusalem between 1948-1967

Does that sound to you like he loves Jews?

#Rhian

Would that your words came true - but regrettably they won't.

Abbas's refusal to recognise Israel as the nation State of the Jewish people says it all.

Truth is the PLO has never accepted the verdict of the international community as expressed in the Mandate for Palestine that the Jews are entitled to reconstitute the Jewish National Home in Palestine without prejudice to the civil and religious rights of the existing non-Jewish communities.

The PLO chooses to declare such international law as "null and void"

Until they change this rejectionist stance - negotiations with the PLO are a waste of time.

Their mates Hamas are no better.

Whilst they claim that "that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day" - negotiations with them are also a waste of time.

One thing you can't criticise the PLO and Hamas for - they are being brutally frank and honest in their intentions - as Hitler was when he wrote Mein Kampf.

My question is - why do people continue to support the PLO and Hamas - unless they too hate the Jews with as much venom as the PLO and Hamas?
Posted by david singer, Friday, 6 June 2014 12:32:14 PM
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The man who speaks to you of sacrifice,..speaks of slaves and masters.

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/06/04/understanding-israels-corrosive-influence-on-western-democracy/

And intends to be the master." -- Ayn Rand

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/chutzpah-epitomized-they-erased-our-land-but-kept-our-recipes/

http://www.john-friend.net/2014/06/jews-demand-more-state-funding-shoah.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-wmd-budget-revealed/5385482

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/181406#.U5CA8XbyQ-A

http://mycatbirdseat.com/2014/06/the-only-standards-are-double-standards/

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.597130
http://www.activistpost.com/2014/06/65-things-we-know-about-nsa.html

http://thiscantbehappening.net/node/2342

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shock-medical-law-we-need-to-have-a-short-5-minute-private-conversation-with-your-child_06052014

http://rinf.com/alt-news/war-terrorism/chilcot-inquiry-iraq-instigated-perpetrators-war-crimes-greatest-scandal-generation/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/sicence-technology/resetting-net-shut-mass-surveillance/

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/spying-dissent.html

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/m/?pageid=event_details&edis_id=BH-20140605-44039-GBR

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/monarch-butterfly-decline-linked-to-spread-of-gm-crops-1.2665131
Posted by one under god, Friday, 6 June 2014 1:50:00 PM
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simple SIMON pACT..treason/by act.

NUKE-armed cuize missiles in/SUBS OFF ISRAEL

violate..both the glen act
simoington amendment..cant be botherd checking into it
just thought id note it.
http://xrepublic.tv/node/9262

http://whatreallyhappened.com/category/palestine

http://whatreallyhappened.com/
Posted by one under god, Friday, 6 June 2014 2:05:57 PM
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What is wrong with you singer? Of course no israelis will live in palestine. Israelis only live in israel.
Whats wrong with having a few palestinian jews singer? The same as "arab israelis".

The two state solution is dead thanks to "facts on the ground" and now israel is going to suffer the same fate as apartheid south africa. Settling the west bank will come to be seen as the folly that destroyed the zionist experiment and destroyed israel as an exclusive "home for the jews".
Posted by mikk, Saturday, 7 June 2014 10:57:14 AM
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