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Shaw about that? : Comments

By Debbie Garratt, published 9/5/2014

Victorian Liberal MP Geoff Shaw raises some interesting issues with regard to abortion, engendering the usual hysterical outbursts from radicals only concerned about the availability of abortion.

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Suseonline "the fact that babies ARE part of the woman's body, at least until they can survive outside the uterus themselves."

So if we had artificial womb technology, there'd we no justification for abortion.

Can another "part" of your body ever exist independently?
Can your arms just wander off and never come home?

Why do think women have miscarriages?
Because their body doesn't recognise this tissue as its *own*, and her immune system attacks it.

So the baby can't survive alone in the early phase.
That somehow gives you the right to destroy it?
I don't see the logic there.

Human babies can't "survive" without assistance for many months, even years after birth.

Should we allow post-birth "terminations", since the baby/infant can't be self-sufficient and is therefore a burden on someone's time and finances?

Mother charged with murder of infant triplets.
Acquitted! They were a "burden" and threat to her mental health.

individual "hundreds of thousands of small children suffering" in poverty.
In Australia?
With a welfare system available to all?

If children suffer, it's because of their parents' actions, not do-gooders.

I suppose do-gooders shouldn't be concerned about other people's children drinking industrial waste or breathing in toxic pollution either.
Mind your own business!
Posted by Shockadelic, Monday, 12 May 2014 10:39:16 AM
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emasculated men and feminist think its ok to multilate babies. What a sick society. Oh but its legal and as Susie says its MY body. What a pathetic defense for the indefensible. To think of the thousands of couples who want to adopt babies and must go overseas because we murder ours justifying it with junk science and seared consciences.
Posted by runner, Monday, 12 May 2014 11:40:36 AM
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It cannot escape pro-abortionist attention that the most inhumane and capitalist movement around is socialism. It supports this procedure, filling the pockets of medicos and more absurd, it is funded by public Medicare. With over 100,000 abortions a year, clearly this has contributed to declining funds. There is no credibility in an organization of people that cry for justice with some issues, but decry the cause of unborn babies. Leaders need to wake up to this fact, show courage and do something about it.
Posted by Longy, Monday, 12 May 2014 12:05:35 PM
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Dream on boys....abortion will NEVER be unavailable as a choice for women again.

Why not put all your obvious passion towards preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place, or looking after the welfare of all the babies and children who are already born and need help?

Runner, especially, would be keen to see more effective contraceptions available, am I right?
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 12 May 2014 8:34:00 PM
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'Runner, especially, would be keen to see more effective contraceptions available, am I right? '

I would be keen to see a touch of compassion for the unborn babies Susie. am I right?
Posted by runner, Monday, 12 May 2014 8:59:53 PM
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Runner has it close, prevent unborns from being unborns in the first place. Instill the concept of contraception in the not so bright & the poor ignorant & ignorant poor. Contraception is the ONLY way to overcome the dilemma of unwanted pregnancy & unwanted & unloved children. It would also be very handy for the do-gooders to wash their greedy little hands of providing support for their ideology. They never do live up to it in practical terms. Millions of people would jump at the opportunity to prevent pregnancy, thus negating abortion.
Even the religious morons wouldn't have an argument. Talk about hitting two targets with one stone. With abortion a thing of the past the do-gooders could then focus on preventing the rest from getting hungry.
Posted by individual, Monday, 12 May 2014 9:27:28 PM
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